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27 Point Doe

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:41 pm
by MULEY7MM
Everything seemed perfect for Mike Smith.

His scouting, stand location and shot were all on.

The whitetail wore the kind of 27-point, gnarly non-typical rack most hunters only dream about.

But something totally expected was missing.

"When I rolled it over there was nothing male-looking on the deer," said Smith, of Clay Center. "I looked at the back end and it was definitely a doe. That was a real surprise."

Not only was the deer he shot Dec. 3, on the opening of firearms deer season, a rare antlered white-tailed doe, it may be the largest antlered doe ever shot in the world.

The rack was measured at about 179 inches.

Doe deer occasionally have antlers, said Tom Bowman, a retired Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks biologist, avid hunter and official Boone & Crockett scorer.

He's had several in the taxidermy business he's operated in Wakefield for more than 20 years.

The antlers on Smith's doe were covered in velvet. That's a soft covering usually found on the outside of antlers as they're growing. Bucks normally rub the velvet from their antlers in the late summer.

Bowman said doe antlers are frequently covered in velvet. Does seldom shed their antlers, like bucks do annually.

Smith, an avid bowhunter, went into this fall's deer seasons knowing at least two great deer were around his hunting grounds.

One was a very nice buck with typical antlers he'd captured on trail camera photos.

The other turned out to be the big doe.

"A guy I know drives by the place I hunt as he goes to work about every day," Smith said. "He told me a deer had crossed the road with 'two of those hangy-down-thingies' so I knew there was some kind of non-typical around."

Seeing neither buck he wanted during archery season, Smith sat on a stand near an alfalfa field on the Dec. 3 opening of firearms deer season, holding a .25-06 instead of a bow.

Several little bucks entered the field that afternoon. At dusk he spotted another buck back in the timber.

"I immediately saw it had double drop tines. When I looked with binocs I could see it was still in velvet," Smith said. "I couldn't get a shot at it back in the woods. It sure seemed to take its time coming through a little wooded draw before I could get a shot."

He figured the strange antler configuration and velvet was because a buck had gotten injured while the antlers was growing, which sometimes happens with whitetails.

The 100 yard shot was easy and on-the-money. Smith didn't notice his "buck of a lifetime" was a doe until after he tried to load the deer into his truck.

Bowman was surprised when Smith arrived to get an unofficial score. It tallied about 179 gross inches of antler and should net-score around 164 non-typical inches.

"It was basically just a conglomeration of points. The longest point was maybe about six inches," Bowman said. "It had an ugly, ugly rack."

Unfortunately for Smith he can't find any record-keeping system specifically for antlered does.

An online search found a highly touted "world record doe" from Iowa that grossed about 155 inches.

Smith plans on getting a life-sized mount of the deer with the velvet still on the antlers.

He's hoping the deer gets a lot of attention and is willing to talk with most media for free.

"I'm not trying to get rich. That's not why I hunt," he said. "I really appreciate it as being a very rare animal and I want people to see it. I think a lot of people will really enjoy seeing it and learning about an antlered doe."

Here is a link to the story http://www.kansas.com/topstories/story/626780.html

Re: 27 Point Doe

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:47 pm
by AGCHAWK
Very cool. Ya hear about this sort of thing about once every other year or so. Certainly a trophy in my eyes.

As a Navy man, we get warned about pickin' up "a doe with buck appendages" while overseas...but I'm pretty sure that this isn't what they are talkin' about.

Re: 27 Point Doe

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:59 pm
by Hiker
Wow! Rare no doubt.
Hawk, LOL! I heard that Guam has a few of those, at least that's the story one of my Navy friends told me about. She wanted to take my friend on a sight seeing tour of the Island, thankfully he found out from some of his other Navy friends and turned the date down.

Re: 27 Point Doe

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:06 pm
by basingater
I actually killed one in spanish fork canyon in 1986 just a two point in velvet 24in tall and 26 in tall and yes I was surprised I will post pic soon(just ofthe horns)

Re: 27 Point Doe

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:20 am
by NotEnufTags
I learned something new today. I'd never heard of an antlered doe before. Love the drop tines. I was fortunate enough to see a double drop tine buck about twenty years ago in Joe's Valley. It came right up to me about 30 yards up the trail. I was on an elk hunt. Sure wish I'd had a buck tag instead that day.

Anyone seen any unicorns out there? lol

Re: 27 Point Doe

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:33 am
by sneekeepete
Very cool post! Thanks for sharing. :thumb

Re: 27 Point Doe

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:33 am
by kinzysdad
For those of us that are married, this should come as no surprise. :thumb

Re: 27 Point Doe

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:03 pm
by MuleyMadness
You guys are funny!! :)) :))

Great story and that is a cool DOE. lol lol

Re: 27 Point Doe

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:33 am
by southwind
This guy used to work for a friend. They say he was offered $250K for the doe which looks like it will be a new world record.

I never know if there is any truth to these kind of $$ figures or of it's just idle talk.

Re: 27 Point Doe

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:41 pm
by GKNUDSON
Wow aint that something