190" california D5 buck and freak non typical

"ColeHous" wrote:Yes i have field pics, but have been asked by a few editors not to publicize them until the articles are written and released. Sorry :) i will wait the 60 days and have the typical scored . the non typical will not score well but is the best deer ive ever kiled. I love the trash. I'm sure he will net in the low 190's after the drying period. The property owner had seen bith of these bucks before season then they dissapeared.. I think this rain brought them back off the hill.

by ColeHous » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:50 pm

Finally after a slow season i got a glimpse of what i was looking for. Tuesday i spotted a 5x5 with nice eye guards he is around 30" wide and will definately hit the 190 mark. He was with a freak non typical that was a 7x7 with tons of palmation and kickers on both sides. I'm guessing he is around 34" wide from kicker to kicker. I'm headed out tomorrow eve to see if i can smack one with a arrow. gotta love the "deer city usa" type of bucks. only one weekend left so i'm crossing my fingers.

"TheGreatwhitehunter" wrote:Mr. Coleman Houston has a lot more to worry about than showing back up on a few websites where he has been revealed as a FRAUD.

Mr. Houston, hopefully when you have your day in court you will realize that the things you have done, besides the obvious, are not worth committing FRAUD just to get your name and pictures in some record books and magazines. It is obvious that you have been living a lie for quite some time and your GREED to be recognized has become your downfall.

Mr. Houston it is people like you that give hunting a bad name. You sir, are a disgrace to hunting and the conservation of the animals that we as hunters provide conservation of and strive for. Teddy Roosevelt would turn over in his grave knowing that people do things like this and call themselves hunters of the animals; the same animals he worked so hard to ensure the conservation of, so that future generations may enjoy them as much as he did.

Origanlly psoted from a hunter who knows a bit about Mr. Coleman Houston

To answer some of the questions that have been posed, consider the following.

1.) In California, it is illegal to buy or sell wildlife parts from game animals indigenous to California. Mule deer are an indigenous species.

2.) He convinced several record keeping organizations that these were legitimately taken deer, taken by him with a bow and entered into their record listings. UHH, you have to actually LEGALLY kill the animal yourself for it to be eligible for entry.

3.) He decieved several magazines about these deer, and got his stories (Fiction, for sure) published. Muley Crazy and California Game and Fish are two that come to mind.

4.) He was building an image as a 'super hunter.' A celebrity hunter in the making. He is/was sponsored by numerous hunting equipment companies that put him on their pro staff. The more prominent his image and legend became, the more he could profit from his deception. In California, I believe it is a felony to profit from wildlife crimes, and even though his buying of indigenous game may only be a misdemeanor, trying to profit from it may cause it be be elevated to a felony. I could be wrong on this, but am pretty sure that is how our state's laws work.

5.) Knowing how California works, some companies that assisted him, like whoever validated his deer tags and mounted his deer, may also be drawing Fish and Game's interest. I wouldn't be surprised if they turn their attention in those directions.

My understanding is that Fish and Game has concluded their investigation and will be issuing a press release, probably in two weeks as it appears their public informatin officer is on vacation. I'll definitely post up that press release when it comes out.

"DLS" wrote:Check out these words of wisdom from the Deer Master himself:

"The kill is the satisfying, indeed essential, conclusion to a successful hunt. But, I take no pleasure in the act itself. One does not hunt in order to kill, but kills in order to have hunted. Then why do I hunt? I hunt for the same reason my well-fed cat hunts...because I must, because it is in the blood, because I am the decendent of a thousand generations of hunters. I hunt because I am a hunter."

Coleman's personal statement, copied from his Facebook page.

"wakmasterr" wrote:I have been the chairman of the California Bowmen Hunters Big Game Club since 1995. Mr. Houston has indeed submitted entries into our California Bowmen Hunters Big Game Records Book, and if or when he is convicted of any violations then he will be dealt with accordingly. He has submitted signed affidavits to us verifying the time, date, and method of kill, and verified that he was the hunter that allegedly harvested these animals. Our records program has been working diligently to maintain and honest record of bowhunted big game animals and we take great pride in the promotion and preservation of these records as well as all bowhunting programs. We DO NOT take kindly of anyone attempting to fraudulently worm their way into our program, and any such attempts to do so by ANYONE, are quite frankly despicable to me.
An open comment to anyone caught red-handed violating fish and game code and laws, or simply violating the Rules Of Fair Chase principals... YOU DO NOT give hunting a bad name by your actions... you give YOURSELF a bad name. You deserve every possible action taken against you by law enforcement officials and by hunting organizations!

Craig Fritz, 2nd VP Hunting - California Bowmen Hunters

CAelknuts wroteDo you believe that's a D5 zone deer? He claims to have killed most of these deer very close to where I hunt, and most of the deer are 100-140 pound blacktails.

If you go to his Facebook page, you'll see photos of him with deer he has shot. All of them are typical for the area, small blacktails that don't weigh much over 100 pounds, some of his bucks aren't even that big, and none of them score even 130, but then he claims to have these four monster deer from essentially the same area.

There is no way in hell that buck pictured above looks anything like the kind of bucks that run around our region. Boy, do I ever wish it was true!

PHOTO SHOP!!!!!!

by Marley: (from another site)


Here's his new story:

There I was, in front of my Samsung monitor watching as the bids got higher and higher. I waited patiently, quietly, for the perfect opportunity to place my bid, careful to not throw it in there early enough for someone to outbid me but not too late so as to miss the time clock on the auction. Beads of sweat dripped down my forehead as I watched the final few seconds tick down. FINALLY....... the buck of a lifetime was mine. Even though I knew it was a good hit on the auction and the seller seemed legit I spent that entire night dreaming of finally putting my hands on that rack. As the sun came up the next morning I began tracking the buck with the UPS code given to me by the seller. After 3 days of tracking the buck from Colorado to California, I finally had my dream buck. I knew on sight that this buck would be the new California record. Boy, that wasn't too hard, I think I'll get me a new record next year. Thanks to my family for teaching me to hunt smarter not harder.

"ColeHous" wrote:Thanks... pi@@ on cloud 9, i'm on cloud 18928839948857 :)

Check out these words of wisdom from the Deer Master himself:

"The kill is the satisfying, indeed essential, conclusion to a successful hunt. But, I take no pleasure in the act itself. One does not hunt in order to kill, but kills in order to have hunted. Then why do I hunt? I hunt for the same reason my well-fed cat hunts...because I must, because it is in the blood, because I am the decendent of a thousand generations of hunters. I hunt because I am a hunter."

Coleman's personal statement, copied from his Facebook page.