Utah 07 proc is online

Thanks DeadI.
Yes, I agree with you on the management bull plan. It could have been a great 380----6 pointer who had a tine get broken clean off to the main beam during the rut, with great genectics, but under this new plan he would be a legal management bull. Like you said, turn him in, keep this beautiful wall hanger and you're right back into the LE draw next year. It shocks me that they didn't think this through more. Under this new plan, a hunter with max points could possibly draw out year after year and shoot a "management" bull. It looks like the 07 Proclamation is already at the printer.....could be a can of worms. #-o

I agree. The more I think about it, the worse it sounds. This is going to be a bad deal.

i dont mind it, but i have max points man am i going to hunt alot for the next few years----------------------kidding i have 3 points for non-res utah and that does sound like a load of crud!!!!!!!!

ya i think thats crap. :>/

I'm still undecided on this one, not sure what to think. I think it will need some 'tweaking' but it's not necessarily a bad idea. They may have jumped into this proposal a bit quick.

Would be awesome to come across a bull like this and get your points reinstated huh??

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But then again, these aren't to common place IMO.

This will help weed out some raghorn bulls.

But if you apply for this tag, you can't apply for anthing else correct??

Like deer or elk.

Wow!!! Yes if I lived in your beautiful state, I'd be applying.......Can you amagine wackin that beast and not have it count against your points and not having to wait 5 years before you can put back in.
Brett, Yes, you are correct only one LE species at a time. Pronghorns have really good draw odds, if anyone wants to hunt them but with the Monster bulls and Monster muley bucks that these LE areas are producing it would be tough to pass up those, afterall Wyoming isn't very far away and WY is king for speed goats.

I heard that if you draw one of these tags then you don't get a point for that year. You would still have your other bonus points reinstated but that would put behind a year in points. If this is the way it turns out to be I woud be fine with it but not if you got a point for that year also. :nono:

I still think that it should be a youth only hunt. It would be a cool start for a bunch of kids and it would make the rules a little less complicated and help get some of the raghorns out of the herd.

Just my thoughts.

i agree a_bow_nut

I am unable to get onto their web site, is it just my computer or is the site down? Anybody having the same problem?

I can get on the site ok.

I think the management bull hunt has some good potential, but it needs to be revised. The DWR wants to take more bulls out of the herds and get the bull to cow ratio back to where it should be in order to sustain a healthy herd. They are not trying to "cull" certain bulls out of the herd from what I have been told. However, I think it should be a hunt that provides more opportunity. It should take all of your points if you draw and close the loophole for the people with max points. If it took all of the points I don't think too many people with max or high points would be applying for the hunt. It would give seniors, youths, and people with lower points an opportunity to hunt mature bulls and their would be fewer people applying for the any bull tags.

The hunt does have some risk for people with high points though. There is always the possibility of holding out for a big bull and then not harvesting one.....then they will lose all of their points. I don't know if I would want to risk that or not. Archery and November elk hunts can be tough!

Fly741,

Here is what Cory (the Administrator) from the DWR site had to say.

Here's what the security guys up at the state capitol are telling me.

We've been experiencing an onslaught of bot attacks (robot software similar to viruses) from infected computers. These bots generate a constant bombardment of requests directed at Web sites that the user of the computer frequently visits. The nature of these requests indicate that the bot is looking for security loopholes in the Web servers it attacks. As of last week, traffic to our Web site from these bot requests began exceeding our server's ability to keep up. Apparently, a good many users of the DWR Web site have computers infected with this bot. The security people are even considering the possiblity that the bot was specifically written or modified to target the DWR.

Last week, the state's network security people began blocking IP addresses that these bot requests were coming from. The block holds for a 24-hour period. If after 24 hours, that same IP address again starts generating bot requests, it's again blocked for another 24 hours. All this being the case, those unable to get through to the Web site are possibly infected with this robot software.

Our security guys are still trying to get a good handle on it and how it spreads, and they didn't have any specifics to give me on how to remove it, but they have, however, successfully removed it from several state computers. Those having this problem might want to fire up their anti-virus software to see if it removes anything from their computers.


Hope that this helps.