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Post by Shedfreak88 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:14 pm

NONYA, i agree with every word your saying. Shoot a freaking doe. a3dhunter take your $300 and buy a 1/4 of a cow cuz thats about how big a yearling buck body is. let the little bucks grow up and get the milk off their lips and the spots off their backs.
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Post by MuleyMadness » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:18 pm

Shoot a DOE?? You guys have to be kidding me right?

That'll really solve all the problems, kill the does that produce the BUCKS!!

Come on guys!

Stop the bickering, whining and complaining. They had a BUCK tag, which allows you to shoot any BUCK you choose. Not everyone is in it for the "HEAD".
If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all!

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Post by NONYA » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:20 pm

All of you talking about shooting yearling bucks for meat also talk about hunting BIG deer,there arnt going to be any BIG deer when you shoot the LITTLE ones,I will eat a tag before i will shoot an imature buck,thats JUST ME.Here in MT we have the option of buying surplus doe tags in certian areas to fill the freezer AND we can shoot a doe on the general tag the last two weeks of the season in many areas,other states need to look into it,especially states like WY that have a stable MD population,if I went on a out of state hunt and saw nothing but young deer I would chalk it up as a fun hunt and i wouldnt whack a forky just to cut my tag,JMHO.BTW many areas NEED to have does killed so diseases like BLUE TONGUE dont spring up and wipe them out,that is exactly what is happening on the mussleshell river here in MT,mortality in deer and antelope is at 30% and it jus started this summer due to overpopulation.

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Post by Coloradobuck » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:27 pm

IT DOSENT MATTER IF HE SHOOT A SMALL BUCK! JUST GET OVER iT NOT EVERY ONE IS A TROPHY HUNTER LIKE YOU NONYA! SO JUST CONGATE HIM ON A DEER THAT HE SHOOT. AINT THIS WHAT THIS SHIGHT IS ABOUT. CONGRATING PEOPLE ON WHAT THEY KILL AND NOT MAKEING THEM FELL BAD JUST BECAUSE MONTANA SAYS ITS NOT RIGHT. GROW UP NONYA!
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Post by 9er » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:29 pm

NONYA,

i agree with letting the smaller bucks go, who knows what that buck couldve been!!!!

IMO its easier to tell a bucks trophy potential after 2-3 yrs, so why not shoot one of the "other" bucks ya had been seeing!

A bucks traits are passed no matter how old the buck is, if that 2 pt breeds a doe and he/she has good genes, the fawn has a chnace at being a good buck, it has nothing to do with age!

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ps, i have ate alot of tag soup, its an aquired tad!!!!!

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Post by MuleyMadness » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:32 pm

Some areas might need doe tags, MOST don't in the state I live in. It's important to remember this...

Taken from the great state of MONTANA...Hunter Education manual.

I tried to find Utah's, cause I like some of the wording in it also...but couldn't find it online.

EVERYONE, is in a different stage in life and in hunting and the reasons they hunt!

Five Stages of the Hunter
Many hunters go through five stages. These are marked by
changes in attitudes and feelings about hunting. Many of the
things they enjoy about hunting are different in each stage including
success. Each stage is a part of our development as a
hunter.
Stage one: The shooting stage
Many beginning hunters are excited to begin hunting. Often they
want, more than anything, to be able to shoot an animal to test
their skills. They often judge success by the amount of shooting
they do. If you are in this stage, your first concern needs to be
safety.
Stage two: The limiting out stage
With practice it doesn’t take long to get good at shooting. An
experienced hunter can often take as many animals as the law
allows. This is called “limiting out.” They judge success by how
many animals they bring home. Hunters in this stage need to
remember the rules of safe gun handling, but they also need to
follow carefully hunting laws and regulations, which tell you
when you can hunt and how many animals you can take.
Stage three: The selective stage
Selective hunters don’t try to hunt for a lot of different animals.
Usually, they’re after one particular animal. This might be a
white-tailed deer with a particular set of antlers or a mountain
goat that’s difficult to get to. Selective hunters challenge themselves
by going after animals that are secretive or otherwise difficult
to hunt. These hunters judge success by their ability to
master a challenge.
Stage four: The method stage
Some hunters chose a particular method to hunt such as bow
hunting or muzzleloader hunting. These methods require hunters
to get very close to an animal before they can take a shot.
This makes hunting more difficult and more challenging. These
hunters judge success by their ability to learn and master a particular
method.
Stage five: The philosopher stage
As many hunters mature and gain experience, they look back on
a lifetime of hunting and find that what they enjoyed the most is
not one single thing. Instead, it’s a combination of many things.
Hunters in this stage might enjoy simply getting out, taking an
animal is not nearly as important. They enjoy passing on their
knowledge to new hunters. These hunters judge success by how
they feel about the entire hunting experience.

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Post by MuleyMadness » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:38 pm

I've let plenty of little bucks go, to GROW up! And will continue to do so, but NO-ONE needs to give any one grief for shooting what they choose.

Unless it's close friends, family, who you know and trust and can take the constructive criticism.

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Post by NONYA » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:38 pm

What "stage" you are in does not change the fact that if you want to hunt big bucks then you need to leave little ones,he said he looked for big deer for many days and had passed up small bucks,i took that to mean he was looking for BIG deer,so he was "selective" till the last day and then got to the "limiting out" stage,am i right?Im not going to tell anyone they are wrong but it seems to me that if you want there to big shooter bucks in the area you hunt you should leave small ones alone,maybe next year there would be shooter bucks if a few people let the little guys walk,its a problem we have here in Mt,everyone SAYS they are looking for good deer but they REFUSE to let a small deer walk in the last week of the season,even when we can go buy 10 doe tags at $10 a piece to fill the freezers,THEN they b$%^# about there being no big bucks left in MT.If we could get our mature hunters to be "selective" we would have shooter deer all over the place,we have tons of deer and decent genetics,they just dont live long enough to show it.

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Post by IDdesertman » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:50 pm

Give me a break. It's her first deer with a bow and she has a buck tag! She can shoot whatever the he// she wants...

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Post by Coloradobuck » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:53 pm

i agree with you IDdesertman
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