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Guys as sportsmen and gun owners I firmly believe we should be concerned about this election. Obama has made his stance against firearms clear. Please watch this video.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e46UkUDkDk
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MuleyMadness
Agreed Matt, he won't be getting my vote.
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MULEY7MM
I just seen on T.V that OBAMA is to far in the lead for john mc cain to catch up well see what happens to are gun rights ](*,)
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I belong to a couple other gun forums and members there are talking about burying or hiding thier weapons. Call me an extremist, but i for one will not cower and hide. I will not give in. I will fight to the death. I will not sit idly and watch the government take the things that make this country so great.

Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best boys. God bless.
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79Ford
"mattman" wrote: i for one will not cower and hide. I will not give in. I will fight to the death. I will not sit idly and watch the government take the things that make this country so great.

Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best boys. God bless.
 Agreed Matt. I have thought about digging a few holes in a few different places, but if/when it ever comes down to needing them, I want my pistol on my hip and a rifle slung over each shoulder. I'm not saying I want to fight or join a militia or any sort of thing, but if that is what it comes down to to defend my family, the constitution, and all of the things I hold dear then you can count me in. There are two for sure ways to cause a civil war in this country. Take away our guns (or try anyways), and take away our right to worship, and the Government is well on it's way to both.
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sneekeepete
I have to be modest about what I say on subjects such as these; but I am thoroughly concerned about the rest of my enlistment. I have sworn to protect and defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic and to obey all orders of the President of the United states.... I could very well be in a heck of a pickle if my orders start contradicting the constitution. I am almost sick to my stomach thinking about what may be in store..... ](*,)
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"sneekeepete" wrote:I have to be modest about what I say on subjects such as these; but I am thoroughly concerned about the rest of my enlistment. I have sworn to protect and defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic and to obey all orders of the President of the United states.... I could very well be in a heck of a pickle if my orders start contradicting the constitution. I am almost sick to my stomach thinking about what may be in store..... ](*,)
 Keep in mind the sometimes doing the right thing is not doing the right thing! I seldom worry about being open to attack from another country with a president that won't respond. I don't worry because when push comes to shove I believe that the military won't allow an enemy to invade us. And no, 9/11 was not an invasion, it was simply a terrorist attack. I expect more and hopefully the law enforcement agencies in this country learned something from 9/11!

I also don't see where the new administration could seriously harm out right to keep and bear. That just might cause a revolution. I doubt any president or congress wants to be associated with that, political suicide
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"Don Fischer" wrote:
I also don't see where the new administration could seriously harm out right to keep and bear. That just might cause a revolution. I doubt any president or congress wants to be associated with that, political suicide
 Heller vs District of Columbia was a 5 to 4 decision. That was on the Second Amendment to the Bill of Rights. That should scare the %@$# out of you. One appointment to the Supreme Court Could change that balance. The flood gates would be opened at state and local levels to enact anything they want to, from outright bans, to making it so miserable or expensive for you to own fire arms.
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Malloy is exactly right. The 2nd ammendmant can be overturned by the supreme court, and that my friends scares the hell out of me. If it comes to that point they will have to follow me to the gates of he** to get my weapons.
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I think the biggest problem we face is that money, comfort and security have become more important than freedom. We started out as a nation of peolple that would give up anything including our lives for freedom. We just voted to give that up.
Mark
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79Ford
"mattman" wrote:Malloy is exactly right. The 2nd ammendmant can be overturned by the supreme court, and that my friends scares the burn out of me. If it comes to that point they will have to follow me to the gates of he** to get my weapons.
 Exactly my thoughts. Come and take my guns but i guarantee by the time they get them the mags will be empty and they will have to pry them from my cold hands. My ancestors as well as many countless others fought and died for this country. First to enable us to have the rights and freedoms we have and then to defend them. If it comes down to it I will not stand idly by and watch a few spit on what so many have fought and died for.

Pete, I understand your concerns. I myself waited until after the 2004 election to enlist because I did not want to be in a military run by John Kerry. All you can do is what your told to do, until it goes against what you believe and then you make a decision from there. Hopefully it doesnt get to that point.
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kinzysdad
Seems the fear is spreading
http://www.yahoo.com/s/983997
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79Ford
Saw a similar one here locally.
http://www.kutv.com/content/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=97adbd35-19cd-46e7-a34f-989b567a4ddd

At the bottom the guy being interviewed says "These weapons are not self defense weapons they are simply weapons of death and destruction. It would benefit society to have them gone entirely.” Now how simple minded can people really be..... If I want to have an AR-15 or an M16, or an AK-47 to help me defend myself and my family or just to go plinking on the weekends then that should be my choice. Dont try to come through my front door and it will never be something you need to worry about. But to say they are "simply weapons of death and destruction" lands this guy on my crap list for sure. The gun by itself is harmless, it's the person holding the gun that would turn it into a "weapon of death and destruction", and that doesn't hold true just to assault rifles either. The same person could be just as deadly and destructive with a handgun, shotgun, or a 5 gallon can of gas for that matter. I just get so tired of this rhetoric that "guns are evil" and "guns are bad".
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"79Ford" wrote:Saw a similar one here locally.
http://www.kutv.com/content/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=97adbd35-19cd-46e7-a34f-989b567a4ddd

At the bottom the guy being interviewed says "These weapons are not self defense weapons they are simply weapons of death and destruction. It would benefit society to have them gone entirely.” Now how simple minded can people really be..... If I want to have an AR-15 or an M16, or an AK-47 to help me defend myself and my family or just to go plinking on the weekends then that should be my choice. Dont try to come through my front door and it will never be something you need to worry about. But to say they are "simply weapons of death and destruction" lands this guy on my crap list for sure. The gun by itself is harmless, it's the person holding the gun that would turn it into a "weapon of death and destruction", and that doesn't hold true just to assault rifles either. The same person could be just as deadly and destructive with a handgun, shotgun, or a 5 gallon can of gas for that matter. I just get so tired of this rhetoric that "guns are evil" and "guns are bad".
 Here is another route they are taking.


(One cloud that appeared on the horizon early in my tenure at T was the UN conference on small arms and light weapons,scheduled for July 9,2001. Ostensibly, the conference aimed at a political declaration on illicit trade in small arms, especialy as they flowed into "conflict zones". Although this was innocuous sounding, like many UN events,I nonetheless wondered what hidden agendas were floating around. As I better understood the likely proceedings, it was increasingly clear that many of the " nongovernmental organizations" ( such as the umbrella group International Action Network on Small Arms) actually had an agenda focoused on domestic U.S. gun control issues. Although it might seem unusual for Americans to expend their efforts in an international forum rather than lobbying at the federal, state or local levels, in fact, the international approach was an increasingly popular one with the American left, which felt that it's agenda was constantly being frustrated by the "vast right-wing conspiracy" or worse in the United States.)

John Bolton,Surrender Is Not an Option
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kinzysdad
CHICAGO (AP) - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is among the candidates that President-elect Barack Obama is considering for secretary of state, according to two Democratic officials in close contact with the Obama transition team.


We are gonna be hamstrung :>/ :>/ :>/
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lifetime hunter
what do you think of this! especially the lady at the end!! (@@) great googly moogly (@@) what has the USA done?? (???) :nono:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTDmGt1Pafw
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MuleyMadness
ifetime hunter

Scary but true, luckily not all Americans are that dumb (referring to the lady at the end).

Sad that to many are that dumb.
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79Ford
Where do people get this idea that it's the governments responsibility to take care of them and pay their mortgage and put gas in their cars? Are some people really that lazy? I dont like spending my hard earned money to put $3-$5/gal gas in my car, but every day I am thankful for the freedom i have to make my life what I want it to be and not what the government tells me it should be.
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