150gr or 180gr 300 WM for Mule Deer & Elk
byuauhunter
9/3/11 10:17am
As most know by now I'm relatively new. I've been shooting 150 gr in my 300 WM for my first 3 years of Mule Deer. I'd like to start hunting elk at some point but was concerned that the lighter/faster bullet might not have enough penetration for elk. Ideally, with my 300 Win Mag I'd like to use one bullet for both my Deer/Elk so I don't have to zero between seasons.
My initial motivation behind the 150gr when I started was I assumed it would be a lighter recoil. I figured why not go with the lightest round that will still be effective.
Now, the more I read I hear things like "180 gr in a 300 WM is better for both muley/elk because the velocity's are a bit slower and you'll be better expansion and short ranges of 300yds or less whereas a 150gr might shoot flatter but at potentially short distances you'll ruin lots of meat.
I got my first (and only) muley in 2009 at about 30 yards when we best over a small hill behind me trotting behind a doe. I did notice while butchering him that the bullet exploded into a million pieces. I've heard that's because the the velocity was still super high at 30yds?
I'm just not starting to learn about ballistics so theres a lot I'm either missing or simply understand incorrectly.
Just to preface. At this point I don't feel comfortable going beyond about 250-300 accurately.
Can I stick with the 150gr for both or should I switch to a 180?
Thanks
My initial motivation behind the 150gr when I started was I assumed it would be a lighter recoil. I figured why not go with the lightest round that will still be effective.
Now, the more I read I hear things like "180 gr in a 300 WM is better for both muley/elk because the velocity's are a bit slower and you'll be better expansion and short ranges of 300yds or less whereas a 150gr might shoot flatter but at potentially short distances you'll ruin lots of meat.
I got my first (and only) muley in 2009 at about 30 yards when we best over a small hill behind me trotting behind a doe. I did notice while butchering him that the bullet exploded into a million pieces. I've heard that's because the the velocity was still super high at 30yds?
I'm just not starting to learn about ballistics so theres a lot I'm either missing or simply understand incorrectly.
Just to preface. At this point I don't feel comfortable going beyond about 250-300 accurately.
Can I stick with the 150gr for both or should I switch to a 180?
Thanks
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I've never been sold on using an "magnum" round. What truly matters is marksmanship. I have hunted with a .270, non-magnum, for many years now and have taken elk out past 300 yards to inside 50 yards. I've taken muleys out past 350 yards to inside 75 yards.
I've never had a round "explode" on me at short distances nor have I ever had a problem with penetration at longer distancens. Bullet placement is the key.
If you feel the only way to put down an animal in it's tracks is to shoot through both front shoulders, then by all means use a magnum. If you want to take an animal with minimal loss of meat, put the bullet where it will do the most damage to the internals; ie: heart and/or lungs.
I have always hunted with 140 gr. bullets but will now be shooting 150 gr. bullets for the sole fact that Winchester no longer makes the FailSafes. I'll be using the XP3's which only come in 130 or 150's. I've elected to go with the 150's and my brother has elected to go with 130's, both of us still hunting muleys and elk.
So, with all of that, I'd say go with the 180's. Much better down range energy over the 150's. Just do a double punch through the lungs at short range and plan on short tracking to save wasting meat. However, if you don't care about meat loss from the shoulders keep punching through them and don't worry about having to do any tracking.
I've never had a bullet explode personally, but I shoot premium rounds. I have seen it happen however, usually on a shoulder.