Broadheads?

Im sure there are a thousand topics about this across the internet... so another shouldnt hurt right?? Im thinking about getting the rage 2 blade expandable (2 inch cutting dia. 100 gr.) broadheads.... Whats everyones oppinions? I was also thinking about maybe the crimson talons? my friend had those but only hunted one year so id like to hear anything i can!
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The Ox
I've heard great things about the rage, I hear they are pretty awesome! I personally shoot wac'ems which i like, they shoot great so no reason to fix whats not broke. I prefer the fixed blade broadheads, expandables scare me (would rather not have to worry whether it will open or not) but i hear the rage are fail proof,along with many other expandables.Im sure i am just paranoid.But like i said wac'em shoot great so no need to switch
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My whole family uses the 2-blade Rage heads when it really matters. When it is doe hunting or antelope hunting any cheap fixed blade will do but when it comes to the penetration and cutting diameter needed to take down a big bodied mature buck we always use the Rage. I unfortunately haven't been able to personally take one down with the Rage, but I've seen the damage done by my cousins and my uncle and the deer don't make it very far before they pile up.
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I've talked to too many people that tried Rage two blades and lost deer because they stopped bleeding. They went back to their old 3 or 4 blade and started killing deer again. Then there are others that swear they never saw anything better. There's too much controversy over this product. If what you are using is working I would be reluctant to switch. Most guys I know who kill lots of big game use Muzzys, Wac Ems, and Montecs or something similar.
Mark
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amp713
"m gardner" wrote:I've talked to too many people that tried Rage two blades and lost deer because they stopped bleeding. They went back to their old 3 or 4 blade and started killing deer again. Then there are others that swear they never saw anything better. There's too much controversy over this product. If what you are using is working I would be reluctant to switch. Most guys I know who kill lots of big game use Muzzys, Wac Ems, and Montecs or something similar.
Mark
 Are those all fixed blade broadheads?

I had looked at the muzzys also but there were like 5 different models and so i didnt know where to go from there. You have any more info on those? favorites?

but thanks guys and i wanna hear from everyone and i have a while before i have to acutally choose.
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amp713
just looked online at some broadheads and most fixed blades arent even meeting the 1 1/4 in cutting diam (except the crimsontalon). The rage is a 2 INCH cutting diam. Also has anyone shot or heard about the carbon express F-15 "dual blade fixed broadhead"? It looks viscious but i have never heard about it???
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The Ox
"amp713" wrote:just looked online at some broadheads and most fixed blades arent even meeting the 1 1/4 in cutting diam (except the crimsontalon). The rage is a 2 INCH cutting diam. Also has anyone shot or heard about the carbon express F-15 "dual blade fixed broadhead"? It looks viscious but i have never heard about it???
every broadhead that m gardner said meets the legal requirements and are all very popular and very effective. in utah it only needs be bigger than 7/8 inch cutting dia. here is direct out of the utah guide book
"your arrowheads must have two or more • sharp-cutting edges that cannot pass through a 7/8 inch ring. If you’re using expanding arrowheads, the arrowheads must have two or more sharp-cutting edges that cannot pass through a 7/8 inch ring when expanded."
wac'ems shoot straight like a field tip and are very deadly i know many people that use them and love 'em
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Ive posted this before... but its a pretty fun video with some good music. Not scientific, and we are not hunting steel barrels but you get the picture. I am going to look at switching from expandables and going back to fixed blades. I shot a spike whitetail last year with meat seeker 3 blades and the blades did not fully deploy. Enjoy....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc-srIw3na0
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amp713
"bergy" wrote:Ive posted this before... but its a pretty fun video with some good music. Not scientific, and we are not hunting steel barrels but you get the picture. I am going to look at switching from expandables and going back to fixed blades. I shot a spike whitetail last year with meat seeker 3 blades and the blades did not fully deploy. Enjoy....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc-srIw3na0
 funny story... after i posted this i began searchin for videos and found this one! but now i have the url...
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100grn 3blade muzzy has never let me down on any game animal. I hit a rib on my 08 elk, it split it took out both lungs and came out about 3inchs the other side. It was only a 35yrd shot. I've used them since they came out. Over the last 11 yrs I've taken 12 whtetails, 4 hogs, 1 mulie per season. Only five elk . All with the muzzy.
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BOHNTR
My personal opinion is that expandables are no longer needed with today's great flying heads. Wac'em, Slick Tricks, Strickers, Montecs are just a few that fly like field points, yet offer superior penetration.

I've been shooting for Wac'em for a number of years and have never had a reason to change......like any other head, they do the job if you do yours. JMO
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amp713
So everyone seems to be aiming away from the expandables which i will admit had me slightly worried because things tend to break or not work right around me. Now with all of these fixed everyone just keeps naming all the same ones, how do you choose which to buy??? wait till a sale and get them cheap????? Would a shop be able to help me or will i just be getting the "this is what i shoot" answer?
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Bohntr named the best fixed blades IMO. Ive never really seen them go on sale. For me, I like the Montecs, they fly nice. But Ive heard good things about Wac'em and Slick Tricks. I dont think you could go wrong with those either.
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PhillyB
"m gardner" wrote:I've talked to too many people that tried Rage two blades and lost deer because they stopped bleeding. They went back to their old 3 or 4 blade and started killing deer again. Then there are others that swear they never saw anything better. There's too much controversy over this product. If what you are using is working I would be reluctant to switch. Most guys I know who kill lots of big game use Muzzys, Wac Ems, and Montecs or something similar.
Mark
 Couldnt have said it better...Muzzy's have been around for a long time for a reason. Keep that in mind when you purchase your broadhead
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9er
"BOHNTR" wrote:My personal opinion is that expandables are no longer needed with today's great flying heads. Wac'em, Slick Tricks, Strickers, Montecs are just a few that fly like field points, yet offer superior penetration.

I've been shooting for Wac'em for a number of years and have never had a reason to change......like any other head, they do the job if you do yours. JMO
 i would like to add the shuttle t/terminal t-lock to this list of great broadheads anyone of these heads will do the job
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SHUTTLE-T's !!!
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no one mentioned thunderheads. Also a great broad head that has been around a long time.
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I know everyone 's opinion probably comes from their own hunting experience, and not to degrade any opinions here but speaking only for whitetail deer the 2- bladed rage is like shooting a hatchet through your bow, it's the most impressive wound channel I've ever seen on a deer,I've shot deer w/ the 3-bladed muzzy, w/ the wasp, but these do not compare to the wound channel of the rage. All these will kill if properly placed but the 2- bladed rage is very impressive.My question for the elk hunters out here, has anyone shot the rages elk hunting and how'd they perform? I know what the hunting show's say but I'd like to here from ya'll!!!
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BOHNTR
My question for the elk hunters out here, has anyone shot the rages elk hunting and how'd they perform?
I know of two people who have hit elk with the rage and had poor results......one lost elk another needed follow-up shots after a long tracking job. Both were behind the shoulder, hitting a rib and lacked penetration.

On the other hand, I know of a couple others who had no issues on elk with the Rage.......if it was me though, why chance losing an animal from lack of penetration. I prefer a cut-on-contact head when I hunt elk. I simply want the best penetration I can get. They are HUGE and their desire to live once hit is like no other, IMO.
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BOHNTR is 100% correct.
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Over the years I have shot several different broadheads at elk, muzzy, steelforce, black hole which is bass pro shops version of the striker and last but not least rage 3 blade. The rage head flew straight to right behind the shoulder and went in all the way to the opposite shoulder which stopped it The elk ran 30 yards or so with a hole in his side that you had to see to believe. The longest distance that any of the elk that I have shot was with the fixed blade steelforce and it went half a mile by my gps on a dead run before it crashed. It was shot in the almost exact same spot and the broadhead was stopped on the opposite side by the shoulder bone. Both of those shots were quartering away slightly. Its hard to say what would have happened if people had used fixed blade heads instead of expandables because every shot is different and the animals reaction to the shot can make a big difference also.
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hardstalk
hi its the new guy! i agree with ^ on the animal makes a difference and also the reaction im fairly new to bowhunting and am rather ignorant on broadheads. on a different note my father has a couple acres and on his land he keeps some barbados sheep to name of the many species of wierd animals. last time we butchered a few i ran to bass pro and got some rage broadheads there were three guys there all with diff. broadheads i cant recall what they were shooting but i know theres were fixed blade i had the only expandable wich was twice the cutting size of theirs for reaserch and science sake we kept a stopwatch handy the expandable wich was twice the size took exactly twice as long. after further examination all three shots were double lung and heart within about an inch of each other. different sheep of course. and also one of the guys stopped me full draw before i shot and pointed out that the rubberband on the rage broadhead was already weathered and was about to snap it had been out of the case maybe 20 minutes. i replaced arrows and used a diff. rage. i used the 2.5 or 2-1/4" scissor blade looking one
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