Buying a new bow (diamond black ice or bowtech allegiance)

alliegence gets my vote, a little longer ATA will be more forgiving for a beginner


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I think you are probably right. There is about $50 difference. The black ice is less. That means $50 I can buy gas to go hunting one time.

Just one perspective. I bought my first bow 2 years ago, a 06' Bowtech Tomkat. I love almost everything about it. It shoots fast and straight and I've been able to get comfortable shooting out to 60 yards. The one thing I don't love is how hard it is to pull back. I had the local shop adjust the draw weight down to 60 lbs but it still feels much heavier that my friends PSE bow with the same draw weight. I'm a pretty big guy so it's no big deal in the field, the issue is when I'm practicing. I seem to run out of steam faster than I'd like, but then again maybe 30-40 shots is too many for one session. Anyway, I haven't shot the two bows you are considering but I know they are both made by Bowtech. You may want to shoot another brand if you haven't just to see if there is a different feel. Overall though I love my bow and wouldn't steer you away from Bowtech because I believe they make a great fast/accurate bow. Good luck and kill a nice one. :thumb

Thanks for the input.

I have shot Matthews, Hoyt, Diamon/Bowtech, Bear, and a few others I don't remember. The Allegiance is pretty smooth on the draw, but the Black Diamond seems to be more comfortable in my hand.

Again, thanks for the input.

GPWDeer

Unless someone posts up some trash talk about the Black Ice, I think I will be purchasing one tonight or tomorrow night on the way home from work.

GPWDEER

Anyone that would trash talk either of these two bows probably has some type of my bow brand is better than yours. I shoot Mathews. I have four of them. Does that make me think that after you have shot all of those bows that you have,and still come back to the two that you have picked and still not want a Mathews. It does not. I think that a bow purchase is like picking out a girlfriend, beauty is in the eye of the beholder my friend. Sounds like you did your homework and you have got it down to just two. Pick the one you like the best and start shooting.

i'll just quote 6x6 and agree! i dont shoot one, but bowtech makes a great bow.

I bought a Diamond Black Ice last spring and after shooting it for a few days I returned it. I shoot pretty well and it wouldn't settle in. I love my PSE Mossy Oak X I got instead. Look on http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com 3 in 40 archery compettion and I'm at 19th in the nation with it and best in Az. I've got a buddy with the Bowtech Allegiance that has had issues (it eats strings too. the guy at the pro shop says it's because it's so fast) and I beat him soundly all the time. Another friend has the Tomcat and that has been a good bow. He still can't beat me though. The Matthews bows are pretty much bullet proof if you can afford one. They keep their value too.
Mark

"GPWDeer" wrote:Thanks for the input.

I have shot Matthews, Hoyt, Diamon/Bowtech, Bear, and a few others I don't remember. The Allegiance is pretty smooth on the draw, but the Black Diamond seems to be more comfortable in my hand.

Again, thanks for the input.

GPWDeer

If the Black Diamond is more comfortable then end of search.. go out and buy it. Good luck and welcome the the wild world of archery hunting. =D>

I got the black ice last night. I took my internet printout into the pro shop to show them what was included in the package on the internet and see what they could do to match or beat it.

The package was $799 on the internet with no sales tax. Idaho has 6% sales tax. I figured if he could get me to within 6% of the internet price I would buy it at my local pro shop and support a local vendor in the process. I also like the idea of being able to have them service it. I had a website that was selling the black ice for $549 (almost $100 under the pro shops price). He matched it. Then we started working on all the accessories that were included in the package (quiver, sight, rest, release, arrows, broadheads, case, stabilizer, wrist sling, peep sight, dampners, and silences) His shelf price for all the accessories was about $355. He gave me 10% off of that for buying the bow which brought it down to about $320. Add that to the bow price and his "best price" was $872. that was a little more than what I was willing to pay. I told him that if he could get it under $850 I would buy it right there and then. He made a call to his manager who approved it.

So, then we began putting the bow together. Some of the items he had quoted me prices on for the accessories were not items that they stock (he was giving me their cheapest product prices so that he could get close to the http://www.huntersfriend.com price) so he unded up upgrading me on the sights to nicer TruGlo which was priced at $85 vs the $59 he quoted me, the same thing happend on the rest. I ended up with a fall away rest made by trophy taker which retails for $82 or so and he had quoted me $29. The rest was slightly used, but I don't mind. Then he upgraded my broadheads and gave me 6 instead of the 3 that the package included. He also gave me some nicer arrows than what was in the package. All told he probably gave me about $150 in extras for free. He then set it all up with 30" overall draw and threw in some free field tips.

Overall I was extremely happy with the experience and the bow. I will be shooting it everyday for the next 20-25 days. I will let you all know what I think of the bow after I have shot some arrows through it.

Happy hunting! GPWDeer

Great Job in getting what you wanted from your local dealer. It's always good to buy from them when you can. These guys are there when you need advice or a quick fix in an emergency. The internet is great if you can work on the bow yourself, or to collect information on how much is a good price for a given item. Just remember Rome wasn't built in a day, it takes a long time to get good at any sport. Just have fun!!!!!!!