buying a new bow..new to long range big game archery

so im buying a new bow, well not exactly new,...should be getting a bear truth2 within the next week and a half....says the ibo is 314 to 318...so at 70lbs and 29inch draw i hope to shoot 300 depending on what arrows and broadheads i buy.

im a whitetail hunter originally from the midwest not used to the long range shots out here in utah, this will be my first season for muley's and elk.

just curious what opinions are on longer shots with that kind of fps at big game. im hoping to be accurate out to 50 yards, anymore than that ill have to wait and see.

what fps do you guys shoot and what's your max range shot in optimum condition?

cant wait to get this bow and start shooting season opens soon!

oh, anyone else shoot a truth2?

-steve
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I of course shoot the truth2. It is a good bow especially for the price. I have shot the new bear attack and dont like it as well although it is fast.

You here a lot about guys shooting 70 yards plus. I personally dont know anyone who should really be taking those kind of shots though and I know some great shooters. Way to much can go wrong at those long distances. In archery things can go wrong at thirty yards pretty quick. Especially if you dont shoot enough.

If you shoot enough you will figure out how far you can shoot comfortably. Stick with that or you will be looking a long time for a wounded animal.
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yeah i figure about 50 yards being accurate will be good enough, i know people that have killed game at longer distances but ill be happy if i can shoot 50 with consistancy.

my friend shot at elk at 72 yards, pretty incredible but i guess with as much time as he spends preparing not all that surprising

since you say you own a truth2, how far do you shoot flat before you have to go to your next pin, my bow right now only shoots to 25 yards then the arrow drops about 6 inches at 30 yards.
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I have my pins set at 20, 30, 40, 50, and 60. But I guess you dont have to start at 20 if there is no drop between there and 25. It works good for me though. I am sure it depends on your draw weight also.
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My buddy shoots the truth2 I really dont know much about it but I do shoot with him a lot! right now he has pins from 30-90 his bow is set at 65lbs he is hoping to get out to 100 by cranking his bow to 70lbs! I personally shoot the Diamond Black Ice I got it in 2007 and I am shooting it at
62 1/2lbs and I have pins from 40-90 and my 40 only hits about 3 inches high at 20 and is right on at 30! My bow does shoot faster then his and my draw length is a inch and a half shorter than his as well! steve8410 you will have no problem shooting that bow 50 yards! And it will do the job! Good luck!
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Are you really talking about taking 90 and 100 yard shots at big game animals. I think thats fine at the range no doubt the bow will shoot that far. But I dont think you can call that an ethical hunting shot no matter what bow you shoot.
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I shoot the 2009 Diamond Stud and it has an IBO speed of 318 with a 29" draw and its set at 70# like the truth 2 and i can shoot flat up to 30 yards. right now my highest pin is 50 yards and i can shoot pretty good groups. i am planning though to have a 60 and 70 yard pin in before the season.

I'd say if you could shoot good groups at 50 you should be good to go.
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ddtruth2 Yes I am really talking about taking 90 and 100 yard shots at big game animals! If you can shoot good groups at that distance why not? I have killed many deer with my bow and the closest one was 73 yards and the farthest was 89 yards. If I could shoot consistant at 110 yards I would not think twice about shooting a deer at that distance! right now I can hit a paper plate 3 out of every 6 shots so I am not feeling comfortable with shooting that shot yet! All the deer that I killed have been complete pass throughs and the ont at 89 passed through both shoulders! You dont think that I can call it an ethical shot? Well I know I can! Ethical to me is knowing you will be killing this animal ASAP! The last thing I want to do is wound one. I am not here to argue. All I am saying is if you shoot good at those distances than why not? I have never wounded a deer by taking shots past 50! A few days ago we put a poweraide bottle in the middle of the target and I shot 5 shots at 90 and 1 at 110 and I hit it with every shot I will admit I was suprised to hit it at 110 but not at all with the 5 at 90. me and my Wife shoot our bows everyday probably 50-150 shots depending on the day. She has pins to 60 but I can tell you she does not feel comfortable shooting a deer or elk at that range but anything within 50 yards it is dead ha ha. She is shooting a Bear APPRENTICE at 40 pounds and there is no doubt that she will be able to shoot consistant at 60 once the hunts come around. If you can shoot tight groups and " feel comfortable and confident" at whatever distance 10 yards, 50 yards, 130 yards there is no reason you shouldnt shoot that far. But in the end this is just my opinion! lets hear what you all think about it?!?!
My wife shot this Rabbit at 47 Yards with a carbon express maxima fixed with a 100 grain wac'em broadhead out of her Bear Apprentice!
My wife shot this Rabbit at 47 Yards with a carbon express maxima fixed with a 100 grain wac'em broadhead out of her Bear Apprentice!
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BOHNTR
An archer sees how far away he can be and still hit his target.......A bowhunter sees how close he can get before he hits his target. Long range archery shots will be the demise of archery only seasons in the future.....JMO
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BOHNTR I agree with you 100% ha ha But this bow hunter only can get within 90 yards sometimes and thats as close as I get before I kill the animal!
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At some point it gets really hard to just pick a spot on the animal to shoot. You are not shooting a scoped rifle.

Also at that distance it takes the arrow a second to get there. An animal can easily take a step in that time. And one step will make a huge difference in where you arrow hits.

Maybe I am wrong but I dont think so.
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BOHNTR said it all +1
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I guess I am just and archer then ](*,) -% ](*,)
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If you determine the "time to target" of the arrow you'll see how risky it is taking long shots. The animal may decide to move when you release the arrow and can take a step easily before the arrow gets there. Figure 300 fps of arrow speed and 100 yards = 300 feet. There's at least a whole second that things can go wrong.
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Animals move and paper does not. Anything over 45-50 is taking big risks. A log legged animal like an elk can move a yard before that arrow arrives real easy. Because of that, it doesn't matter how much you practice if the animal is no longer there when the arrow arrives at the initial spot targeted. And don't forget about the effect of wind on an arrow. Can long range shooting be done, sure, should it be attempted, not in my opinion. I agree with a prior poster, it will be the demise of our archery seasons. :>/

Good luck with your new bow, and practice shooting it from all angles. There is a lot to be said for confidence in your equipment.
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just ordered my truth2 should be here sometime next week, now time for new arrows and everything else.
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WinMag
I have to agree with BOHNTR on this one! And Steve8410 I hope your new bow is a perfect fit. Good luck this coming season!
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Tyewire
BOHNTR nailed it on this one.

Enjoy you new bow! Practice often, and find your effective range. Don't get caught up in the speed thing. With today's bows and carbon arrows it will shoot plenty fast and accurate for you. Good Luck!!
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