Heavy Arrows

I am thinking about switching to a heavier arrow for elk hunting this year to get rib breaking penetration. I have been shooting about 450 grain arrows including broadhead. Any suggestions on arrow types? I have been eyeing the Full Metal Jackets. Thanks
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Mularcher
I shoot Easton Full Metal Jackets 28 1/2", I'm at 439gr with a 100 gr head
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Tonoonyi
I also shoot the full metal jackets, upper 400 grain range. They seem to work great for me. :thumb
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amp713
+4 on the full metal jackets. I think mine weighed in at just shy of the 450 mark. This will be my first year hunting with them though. I will be hunting elk, and hopefully a limited entry muley with them!
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Are you guys saying 450+100(broadhead)=550? I want to be 550+. Will FMJ's get me there? My arrow length is 29". Thanks for your input.
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Mularcher
439gr Total Weight
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Tonoonyi
29-1/2" arrow plus 100 grain broadhead around 475 grains total arrow weight.
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a_bow_nut
Carbon express makes an arrow called the Pile Driver Hunter. You can get these arrows in weights up to 13.6 grains an inch. That would make a thirty inch weigh 408 grains not including the broadhead.

I haven't shot these arrows but I do shoot the Carbon Express Terminator Hunter arrows and they have been awesome to shoot.
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2419 XX75 or78 at 29 in are 423 grains shaft alone.

Aluminum's win the versatility contest again. =D>

How many pounds do you shoot?
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nuttinbutchunks
I shoot Cabelas 6085s out of a Mathews Reezen. They weigh 425 grains with an Initial velocity is 295 FPS at 67 pound pull, Kenetic Energy (KE) of 82 Ft pounds. At 100 yards the computer says 70 Ft pounds of KE. That's what you gotta look at. A heavier arrow will have a more profound arc. At close distances, it's less revelant because of the ability for better shot placement.

I would think 70 Ft pounds of KE will blow a 425 grain shaft right through an elk baring contact with bone. Then broad head performance comes into play.
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I am pulling 72 lbs. PSE says my bow shoots around 312fps. Before I got this bow I was shooting an old PSE Carroll Intruder which was the best on the market back in '92. I used it for 14 years with heavy XX-78 arrows. I loved the set up. I don't know why I swiched to carbon arrows. Probably because when I bought the new bow they gave me a dozen arrows. But seeing the FMJ's at the shop last week got me thinking about that old set up. I am willing to sacrifice speed for KE.
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"nuttinbutchunks" wrote:I shoot Cabelas 6085s out of a Mathews Reezen. They weigh 425 grains with an Initial velocity is 295 FPS at 67 pound pull, Kenetic Energy (KE) of 82 Ft pounds. At 100 yards the computer says 70 Ft pounds of KE. That's what you gotta look at. A heavier arrow will have a more profound arc. At close distances, it's less revelant because of the ability for better shot placement.

I would think 70 Ft pounds of KE will blow a 425 grain shaft right through an elk baring contact with bone. Then broad head performance comes into play.
What Computer? Is there a web site where I can find info like this?
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"elkslayr" wrote:
nuttinbutchunks wrote:I shoot Cabelas 6085s out of a Mathews Reezen. They weigh 425 grains with an Initial velocity is 295 FPS at 67 pound pull, Kenetic Energy (KE) of 82 Ft pounds. At 100 yards the computer says 70 Ft pounds of KE. That's what you gotta look at. A heavier arrow will have a more profound arc. At close distances, it's less revelant because of the ability for better shot placement.

I would think 70 Ft pounds of KE will blow a 425 grain shaft right through an elk baring contact with bone. Then broad head performance comes into play.
What Computer? Is there a web site where I can find info like this?
 There is a trial version of On Target 2 you can download from
http://pinwheelsoftware.com/
Purchasing only costs $27 for the full version. It's an eye opener when it comes to selecting the correct spine arrows for your bow, plus if you have a single pin slider sight you can print your own tapes.
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HighLander
I shoot the Easton FMJ's 340's, the weight 468.00, I had them weighing 510.00 but I went to Blazer vanes and a shorter wrap to just lighten them up a bit. Heavy and hit like a truck hitting a wall.
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"HighLander" wrote:I shoot the Easton FMJ's 340's, the weight 468.00, I had them weighing 510.00 but I went to Blazer vanes and a shorter wrap to just lighten them up a bit. Heavy and hit like a truck hitting a wall.
 Just curious what bow you're launching them from?
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amp713
"nuttinbutchunks" wrote:
HighLander wrote:I shoot the Easton FMJ's 340's, the weight 468.00, I had them weighing 510.00 but I went to Blazer vanes and a shorter wrap to just lighten them up a bit. Heavy and hit like a truck hitting a wall.
 Just curious what bow you're launching them from?
 what length do you have those cut to and what grain of tips/broadheads?
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If you want to shoot full metal jackets you might as well just go pack to alum. arrows. They will bend. I have shot about every arrow on the market and I have never found a better arrow than a Whitetail. They hold up all year long. I think people are getting carried away with the heavy arrows. If you bow shoots over 250 fps. It doesn't matter how heavy your arrow is you will blow right througt the ribs. Last year I was shooting the 45/60 whitetails 265fps and at 45 yards I shot 6*6 bull Through rib heart rib stuck in oppsite shoulder. If you cannot hit your spot you need to practice a little more. The Bull didn't make it 60 yard from shot.
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"HighLander" wrote:I shoot the Easton FMJ's 340's, the weight 468.00, I had them weighing 510.00 but I went to Blazer vanes and a shorter wrap to just lighten them up a bit. Heavy and hit like a truck hitting a wall.
They bend and don't come back
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nuttinbutchunks
"ElkTalkOR" wrote:If you want to shoot full metal jackets you might as well just go pack to alum. arrows. They will bend. I have shot about every arrow on the market and I have never found a better arrow than a Whitetail. They hold up all year long. I think people are getting carried away with the heavy arrows. If you bow shoots over 250 fps. It doesn't matter how heavy your arrow is you will blow right througt the ribs. Last year I was shooting the 45/60 whitetails 265fps and at 45 yards I shot 6*6 bull Through rib heart rib stuck in oppsite shoulder. If you cannot hit your spot you need to practice a little more. The Bull didn't make it 60 yard from shot.
 What he said 10sign:
I perfer a flatter trajectory.
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