how much

I just picked up a new T/C Omega Z-5 for $320, shipped to my house. I haven't killed anything with it yet, matter of fact I haven't even shot it. I hear they'll shoot accurately out to 175+ yards.

ya if ya have the cash go with a TC encore. if not get something from cva. my muzzleloader. which is a white. is a 45. cal and i have mine sited out to 150 yards and i know i can make a longer shot if neccisary.

There are a lot of good Muzzys out there.

My boys have a TC omega ( $260 .00) + or - , CVA optima ( $200.00)and I have Traditions pursuit pro ($ 245.00) , but we paided WAY less by shopping around . All work great. This last year was our first year hunting with the Muzzy. Cody took his first big game animal with his .50 CVA Optima at around 90 - 100 yard. I don't think i would shoot much farther than that. With open sights or Red Dot , a lot of your Target is covered at long distances. TC does make a 1x scope that has very fine cross hairs that are real nice . WE also shoot 300 grain XTP H. points and I am not sure what hind of damage they will do when they slow down at long distances . So we will try to stay at a 100 yards and under for Elk and maybe a little father for deer, but not much. I remember pulling up and a spike at 150 (?) yards and my front site covered most of his shoulder , I just did not feel good about the shot and past. :>/ That was the only chance I had last year but feel good about my choice .

Here is the photo of my sons spike he shot with his CVA optima .

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you should be able to get a good muzzle loader for btween 200-and-400 dollars lots of options

I have the original Knight Disc Rifle.. You can pick up the newer Knight models for around $300-$400 or even $200 If you find them on sale.. Love the gun.. My dad shot a buck at 278 yards with it last year.. But I feel comfortable shooting up to 200 yards with it