Hunter edicit question

So when i got my bull last weekend we had a guy and his son come up to us and they said they were tracking a blood trail from a bull they shot about 300-500 yards but lost the trail and had heard our shots. And we told them that the bull was walking like he should there was no staggering and that the only bullet holes in the bull where mine. Well the bull had a missing eye we thought maybe he hit it on a branch or maybe got in a fight or something. So im home skinning the skull and come to find out there was a small hole in the other side of the skull where the bullet came out from this other hunter. So apparently the guy shot him in the eye with this 22 looking rifle and there were no signs of it. Sorry heres my question. If you kill an animal that someone has already shot but has gone that far who gets the animal?? Had i known that it was a bullet wound im not sure what i would have done, but for future reference i would like to get some of your opinions. My buddy said if it goes farther than 100 yards and you put him down its your. thanks in advance.
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AGCHAWK
Boy, that's a very tough question with a LOT of variables. Also, I have heard of some really bad crap going down between hunting parties when things like this happen. Some folks get a little touchy over this subject.

1) What you did was perfectly acceptable. The bull seemed to be a healthy bull and showed no signes of being hit; you didn't hear any shots nor were you aware that someone may have already put a bullet into the bull; you had no idea that the eye wound was even rifle-related. As far as I am concerned, it's your bull....although it is truely your bull now because it's wearing your tag.

2) If the bull was mortally wounded I would have made every effort to find the hunters that wounded it and assist in the recovery of the animal. After all, none of us wants to see such a magnificant animal suffer any longer than necessary, if at all. I believe one of our members here ran into this situation with a Mule deer buck a season or two ago and can chime in on this.

3) If there are any arguements between hunting parties as to who's bull it is......let them have it! Getting into a firefight with some idiots because they believe they shot the animal first is not what you want. There are other animals out there and no human life is worth a tag of any kind. If you still have serious issues with the situation, call the local Game Department and let a warden sort it out. Again, I've heard too many scarey stories that started this same way.
Not to mention, would you really want to put YOUR tag on an animal that was already mortally wounded by someone else?! I know there are folks that don't care but I certainly would not want to. I am prepared to go home empty handed every time I hit the field and really am out there to enjoy the great outdoors anyway...the last thing I want is a "charity" animal to fill my freezer.

I could go on but again, there are so many variances to this situation that I would be typing all night. Bottom line in my opinion: You did nothing wrong and have one heck of a fine animal that YOU harvested. again, CONGRATS!
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Springville Shooter
Bottom line,
If you didn't harvest this animal cleanly, the dolts that made the poor shot would have never found it and it would have been left to try to make it through the winter fighting infection and all the other nice things associated with a not immediately lethal wound like that. I agree with Hawks advise, nothings worth fighting over, but the bull is yours. The best news is that now this animal is being enjoyed and is not just another pile of bones on the winter range. That's my opinion.----shooter
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dahlmer
This can be a really tricky situation. I believe you acted appropriately in the situation you cited. I would agree that the final determination comes down to was the intital shot fatal or not. If the shot was then it goes to the first shooter, if not then the person who placed the fatal shot should tag the animal. That being said...if it gets heated and the other person is insistant, walk away. No animal is worth escalating the situation for.
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Loafer
The bull should go to the first hunter to put a good solid lethal shot on the bull. If your shot does not noticeably slow or alter the movement of the animal and you have to wait for wound infection to eventually kill the bull then hes still up for grabs.
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Thanks for the replies. Great insights.
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I'm not sure what state you're in, but Washington State reg's say that the person whose shot kills the animal is the one who tags it. No if's ands or buts. The deer I got this year had been hit earlier in the morning but was still running flat out when I took him down. We didn't even realize he was wounded until gutting him, his stomach had a nick in it and I cut my finger on a broken rib (I hit the base of his neck).

The guy who gut shot him stopped buy our camp when he realized I was skinning the deer he had shot that morning. He congratulated me and even apologized for any mess his bullet may have made.
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Wow thats awesome. congrats on ur deer.
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Thanks. Congrats on your Elk. I think in most cases an issue won't occur if you just have a good attitude. I wonder how often an ncident like this occurs? I've been hunting in one form or another since I was 10 (30 now) and have only heard of a situation like yours or mine a few times.

Now I do know of a few people who've had deer stolen from a hanging pole/tree by people before. Thats just pathetic
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Your bull period. We all know within reason what a killing shot is and blinding a bull elk with a too small of caliber is not it. I killed a deer one time that had a 170 grain 30-30 bullet, a broadhead, and three 00 buck shot that were completely healed. She was a tough old doe for sure. I would never want to claim a game animal that was not mine and I believe from your story that your conscience is clean on this. Enjoy
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TheGreatwhitehunter
Most wardens seem to believe that the person whose shoots and kills the animal is the one who tags it. I belive the first lethal blood drawn should get it. The guy hitting the bull in the eye is not a lethal shot obviously the bull was now blinded and you did the right thing by tagging it as you put a the lethal shot on him.
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I want to know why someone is up in the mountains shooting elk with a .22 type rifle!!!!!!!!!?????????? If this is true it really angers me!!!!!!!!!
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