im off again
Coloradobuck
11/1/07 10:11pm
im off again this weekend to try to get a muley doe and a cow elk! so hopefully i will get something!! xcrossx xcrossx xcrossx 4c
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Best of luck, have a great hunt!
Callofthewild,
Harsh...intended or not.
wbird
Have a great hunt Ronald and I hope you fill the freezer with fresh wapiti and venison.
don't get me wrong i enjoy being out among those regal beasts called elk. i just feel that the mule deer has been almost abandoned and are paying for the higher dollars the elk can bring in.
if by chance i did offend mr. coloradobuck then i do offer an appology. i just do not know why we must try to rally support to enbark in a preverbial duck shoot which is the mule deer doe hunt. antlers have absolutely nothing to do with the way i feel on this subject. if you feel that you need meat and not antlers then shoot the first spike you see. at least that way you are not affecting the future of the mule deer herd. that deer will not be ready to breed and there is a doe left to get bred and produce offspring to replace the spike that was harvested. that is just my .02 cents.
callofthewild, Colorado buck hunts mainly for meat not to mention he is only in highschool still for him its more about hunting opportunity than it is trophy for him right now. Not that he dosn't get buck tags every year also. He has killed a few with the 308 . He also lives in Very good Deer country alot of B/C bucks come out of his area
Colorado you get a buck and a deer tag in most units and a bull and a cow tag also.
Unlike Utah(where you do have some great trophies) we are over run with mulies and elk as Colorado is a opportunity state quanity not quality managment overall But we do have some good units that take more than a few points.
CB-hunt whatever you enjoy and good luck!
Way to go!
me and my beast of a doe
me and my doe two
veiw from where i shoot the doe.
We welcome you to MM but I'd ask that you and others please keep your posts positive and up beat.
We all have a right to believe as we please, but we don't have the obligation to try and convert everyone else to our idea of "right"
If he has doe and cow tags, wish him luck. If that is too much against your grain then say nothing.
if i were to have those tags i would be in disguise while on the hunt.
To me this implies that CB should be ashamed or feel guilty about what he is doing.
I was once told that one of the prices of living in this great country is that we have to tolerate other peoples beliefs even when they are not the same as our own.
To watch all of this fighting between fellow hunters puzzles me. (???)
CB,
Great pictures on a fine doe. :thumb
Can't wait to hear the story.
we do have a right to believe as we please.. correct me if I'm wrong.. but doesn't callofthewild have a right to believe as he believes....but as long as he keeps it to himself?? now that doesn't seem right! he wasn't trying to convert anyone.. at least what I read.. but then maybe some posts were deleted... IMHO (???)
I don't have a problem with friendly, helpful discussion, not not tearing each other down.
Brett
I've shot quite a few in my days and loved every one of them.
For those of you that disagree with the harvesting of does, that's cool. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and you don't have to hunt them if you do not want to.
However, the harvesting of does (and cows for that matter) is an essencial part of game management.
To start, does can live for as long as 15 years (and sometimes longer under ideal conditions) while most bucks live no longer than around 9 years. This is mainly due to the bucks "more rough" lifestyle they lead while battling for dominance, breeding rights, etc. Therefore, left unchecked, the population can increase rather rapidly with does far out-numbering the bucks.
Typically, most management plans shoot for around 9-12 bucks per every 100 does (this ratio does vary from region to region, state to state) as a "post-hunt" minimum ratio. This not only keeps the population at manageable levels, it helps ensure that the vast majority of does are bred by the more dominant, healthy bucks.
If does were bred regularly by weaker bucks with "lesser" genes, this would adversely effect the overall health/fitness of the herd (I am not saying it does not happen...it does. However, with less does and a better buck-to-doe ratio it helps ensure that the bigger, healthier bucks make the rounds more efficiently.)
Additionally, overpopulation is a major concern. If a population/meta-population is allowed to overpopulate then you run the risk of overgrazing, increased mortality, weaker heards, and a much more rapid spread of diseases and parasites. To keep the population in check and at proper/near proper buck-to-doe ratios you must kull a certain number of females.
Various state's game departments, DNR's, etc review population numbers, mortality rates, hunter harvest numbers, etc at regular intervals to ensure that the populations are healthy and in check. These numbers in turn help dictate the number of antlerless permits/tags that are allowed in each region, GMU, etc. They also help dictate how many buck tags, special permits, depredation permits, etc will/can be issued.
Again, we are all entitled to our own opinions and that's fine. I just wanted to help folks form a more informative opinion on this subject. You can agree, disagree, refute my thoughts and opinions, etc. That's fine with me.
See Colorado, you're doing your part to help ensure the future health/fitness of the Mule deer population is at optimal levels! Thanks man!