Limb Saver Barrel De-resonator

Has anyone used these? I have seen them on some guys rifles but have never heard anyone personal experiences with them.
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Springville Shooter
We had a thread somewhere about this with some great points, I think it was in Rifle hunting before we begged Brett for a shooting/reloading forum. I don't think that they make a noticable difference, but they don't hurt either.----shooter
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sneekeepete
Thanks for the input. I must have been hunting when this was brought up last time. thanks for taking the time to chime in again.
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I built a 27 ultramag and it shot 3/4-1" groups. after puting a limb saver De-resanater on it shot 5/8-1/2" groups. The only problem was then I was stuck with that birds nest on my bbl.
I couldn't stand it so I replaced the rifle.
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I tried one on my 223 M70..... made accuracy worse... tried it in several different posisitions.

The only problem was then I was stuck with that birds nest on my bbl.
I couldn't stand it so I replaced the rifle.
 you could have carefully cut it off with a razor?????
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I think the guys from Eastman's uses them. Do they melt on your barrel if it gets to hot? I have been thinking of getting one for my 300 ultra mag.
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no, I don't think they'd melt
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NONYA
If your rifle barrel is so weak that a small rubber ring takes the whip out of it and makes it more rigid you need a new barrel.Go to a long range shooting competition and count how many are being used....0,if they increased accuracy by any amount they would use them.Eastmans would strap a dog turd to thier gun if they were being sponsored by it,they need to get sponsore by a shooting instructor,Ive never seen so many miss's on a hunting show,I dont think they can kill an antelope without missing it first.
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"NONYA" wrote:If your rifle barrel is so weak that a small rubber ring takes the whip out of it and makes it more rigid you need a new barrel.Go to a long range shooting competition and count how many are being used....0,if they increased accuracy by any amount they would use them.Eastmans would strap a dog turd to thier gun if they were being sponsored by it,they need to get sponsore by a shooting instructor,Ive never seen so many miss's on a hunting show,I dont think they can kill an antelope without missing it first.
HAHA I couldn't have said it better myself. I've never seen a sniper with a deresonator. And not just the eastmans show but a lot of hunting shows have incredible misses. I'm not an expert but I stick to the basics. Consistant hold/point of aim, breathing and trigger squeeze. When I first got my Model 700 I took the 5 different rounds I wanted to hunt with, the one with the smallest 3=shot group is what I use. Fed. Prem. 180grn partitions give a consistant 1"-1-1/2" group at 100 yards.

How do these "professional" hunters miss 75-100 yard shots from a stand? I mean they've ranged all the trees, watched the deer for 5 or 10 minutes, steady rest. It's not like they're doing a spot and stalk and have 5 seconds to make a decision and take a shot on a runner.
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Sorry about that I got on a bit of a rant.
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NONYA
Its OK ... lol
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killerbee
ya, that was kinda funny lol
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I'm glad my unreasonable anger made ya laugh. :thumb

And I hope I didn't offend anyone.

For gits and shiggles I looked these up on the Cabelas site. The rating was 4.5 stars out of 90 reviews ](*,) (???) . Unfortunately my ire forced me to write one of my own :>/ .
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sneekeepete
I really appreciate everyones responses on these things. It looks like you all saved me some $ and some of this ](*,)
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On the topic of accuracy and barrels... Have any of you noticed how many people rest their barrel (instead of the stock) on shooting sticks or whatever on T.V. shows? I've always been told to let nothing touch the barrel.
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Springville Shooter
You were told right, this is a bad practice that can adversely affect accuracy. Lucky for them most shots are close enough at big animals that they still make the shots sometimes. I always wondered about the old rifles with the sling studs attached directly to the barrel. I guess accuracy had a different definition back then. Those were what I call the paper plate days. If you could keep a hand full of shots on a paper plate that was nailed to a tree at around 100yds, you were ready to go hunting. Not good enough for me.------shooter
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WHEW. Thought I was going crazy for a minute there.
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So we've established that things touching the barrel is bad. Then what about rifles like the Ruger Hawkeye International (picture). I've always liked the look but figured they wouldn't be as accurate. Does the same go for tube magazined rifles like the old .30-30's? Neither of those have a free-floating barrel.

I guess it wouldn't be the case for the .30-30. With the low MV you can't go out too far anyway.
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Springville Shooter
OK, I have to be careful here because I don't want to offend the guy out there who has an old mannlicher style rifle that shoots little bughole groups, but.......in my personal experience, anything touching the barrel that can add pressure, or disturb harmonic vibrations will adversely affect accuracy. Some really good gunsmiths have accurized rifles by adding a pressure point where the forestock meets the barrel, but I have never tried this method of accurizing and none of the gun guys who I hang out with have either. Within groups of target shooters that I know, the simple rule is barrels are free-floated meaning that any material that comes in contact with the barrel is removed. My personal observation about rifles that have stock pressure on the barrel is that they may shoot well at times, but the accuracy will be hit and miss and "flyers" will occur more often. Just my two cents, but the first thing I do when I add a rifle to the collection is get out the barrel channel reamer and the accuglass. Many of the types of rifles that have barrel attachments such as your 30-30 were simply never designed to be super accurate, but to be handy and functional with acceptable accuracy at modest ranges.-------shooter
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Cool, thats pretty much how I always thought. I'm no long range shooter... yet. I have a hard enough time affording the hobbies I already have. But someday I'd love to have a custom rifle. First things first, get ther gear and learn how to reload at home.

I just realized I highjacked the thread. Apologies all around.
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quebechunter
just a personnal experience on resting on the barrel instead of the forearm.
my uncle last summer was wondering why his rifle ( rem 700 in 7 mm rum)
would sometime shoot bullseye at 250 y and other time he would shoot 12-14" high.
until i noticed that he was sometimes resting on the barrel, he actually didn't believe me at first
but had no choice but to agree i was right when that solved the problem.
my brother tried with is 300wsm for fun and same thing happenned

i knew it could make a difference but i never imagined it could be that much from this relatively close of a shot. i would have guessed 4-5 inch max at 250 y.
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I have a browing bar .338 win mag that the front sling swivel screws into the valve body where the piston runs the action which is forged onto the barrel when you take it apart to clean the the piston port you have to take the sling screw out to get the forearm off after many head scratching moments on the range i finally figured out that if that screw is not tightened to the exact place is was before that the gun would shoot off sometimes by a foot no bsing after working up a load with barnes 185gr tsx i marked the stock to ensure i get that damn screw in the same place after that the gun shoots awesome groups especially for an auto imo its a bad design on a great gun and it reflects directly on what putting pressure points on a barrel can do
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In my researched biased opinion, the de-resonator is a great product for a person that exclusively shoots factory ammo. Its a quick way to adjust barrel harmonics with out accuracy via loads. In all honesty if a person doesn't reload their own ammo and wants to have descent accuracy with factory ammo they could do it with utilization of pillar/glass bedding, good scope, bipod/rest, free floated barrel/tang, practice/good habits, properly adjusted de-resonator+ consistent factory ammo= descent grouping if all conditions are in check. :-k
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My Winchester mod. 70 300 mag was shooting 1/2 in groups when I floated the barrel and then it started shooting about 3 to 4 inches. I put another factory stock (with the pressure point) and it went right back to 1/2 inch again so you got me..
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"poleokjc" wrote:My Winchester mod. 70 300 mag was shooting 1/2 in groups when I floated the barrel and then it started shooting about 3 to 4 inches. I put another factory stock (with the pressure point) and it went right back to 1/2 inch again so you got me..
 I've heard of that happening to plenty of rifles when guys float the barrel and remove the pressure points... I've read that if you have a rifle stock that has pressure points, you can temporarily "float" the barrel by shimming the action a tad to raise the barrel off of the pressure points. Then shoot the rifle to see what effect that has on your accuracy. If it seems to make things worse, removing the pressure points on the stock might not be the best idea. I've never tried this out though.
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