Major deer and elk hunting changes (in utah)

I filled out the survey the other day. It will be interesting in the coming year. :-k

yeah i think these are by far, hands down the stupidest propoasals ever made!!!! makes me wanna hang myself.

first off the idiots dont thin k the state can handle a 10 day deer hunt so they cut it to 5 ,3 in some areas. now they wanna nearly triple the days in the field with a rifle while also putting more people and less pressure out there t! hello are deer herd is struggling enough! less pressure is gonna allow more deer to be killed, more days in the field is gonna allow it as well
so tell me how is a 10 day deer hunt to much and 14 days is ok

utah doesnt have the deer herd to support 2-7 day rifle hunts in my opinion. this crap is getting old . are these guys really that dumb?
can anyone please tell me how the heck 2-7 day deer hunts will help the struggling deer herd?
they think one year of a 3/5 day deer hunt is gonna rebound the herd!?
i could see maybe two-3 day deer hunts being possible. but still dont like that idea either.
freak i swear these guys are getting dumber

next they wanna stuff the muzz and rifle hunters together on le elk hunts? how freakin stupid is this! so now the muzz guys are gonna be required to wear orage while trying to sneak into range on a bull while a rifle hunter can just smack the bull from 600 yards.

this crap just ticks me off.
i cant see a bit of good coming for either deer or elk if these props are approved. makes me sick.

these idiots need to quit managing for hunters and start managing for the healthy wildlife herds


can someone please inform me how anyone of these propsals are woth a dang?

In one of the explanation of advantages it sayes having a early and late hunt would put less hunters in the field at the same time but if you take half of the general deer hunters and half of the general elk hunters and put them in the field at the same time you would still have quite a few people in the field at the same time, wouldn't you?

If you take two hunts(deer and elk) and combine them to one(deer/elk) and then split it into two hunts (early and late) you still have two hunts. I'm sure the numbers would lesson due to people having two tags but I don't think you will see a huge drop of people in the field at the same time.

And Christmas come early for muzzy hunters with L.E. elk tags you get to hunt most of your hunt with the rifles, yeah. ](*,)

loafer exactly, and why would you want less pressure if your managing for animals? less pressure is gonna mean more success, meaning more deer killed meaning erd numbers hurting and less mature bucks. stupid imo

1. Provide more options for general-season deer and elk hunters

This change would reduce the total number of hunters in the field at one time, resulting in less crowding.

I agree with this, GREAT idea (meaning reduce number of hunters in field) but might be the only real advantage here I see...but yes time would tell whether this would hurt Utah's deer herds. I do think it's kinda of funny and doesn't make a lot of sense what they have done lately. 9 day hunt, then 5 day hunt, then back to 9 day hunt for 1 year, then back to 5 day hunt (some 3), now back considering back to (2) 7 day hunts.

We need more consistency here, not throw darts at the board and hope the we 'hit' approach.

2. Consolidate most limited-entry elk hunts to September

If the Wildlife Board approves this proposal, most limited-entry elk hunts will occur in September 2011. That's when the elk are at the peak of their breeding season (also known as the rut). During the rut, elk are less wary because they're focused on breeding. That makes it easier for hunters to harvest them.

Not sure I see the need for this? Unless we are talking archery I'm for it. Aren't things fairly easy for the most part on killing a bull currently with a LE tag???? Help me out here?

3. Proposal: Begin big game hunts on the same dates every year

If the Wildlife Board approves this proposal, Utah’s big game hunts will begin on the same dates every year. The only time this will change is if the opening date occurs on a Sunday. By state law, no hunts can begin on Sundays.

Not sure I see the point of this either, but I don't have a problem either way I suppose. Think it's fine the way it is, but if they want the same date every year so be it...no big deal. I personally liked the Saturday opener every year though.

I'd like more explanation as to why they do certain things and propose certain things?

I'm ALL FOR CHANGE for the better and if things improve, lets do it. Sometimes you have to try something new to see if it works...wise is the man that learns from his own mistakes and changes, WISER is the man that learns from others mistakes and doesn't have to change.

Lets me smart here and do what's good for the deer herds and grow some big bruiser bucks, unfortunately I'm afraid is all a business and MONEY is #1. Sadly, sorry folks look at the U of U and PAC 10 it's all about the might DOLLAR folks. Can't say I blame them one bit, but it's all about money.

I took the survey but a button answer is LESS EFFECTIVE, trust me I've made these before myself. What's best is a comment box, that's were you can learn the most but I don't think they want to take the time to read them all. Sounds like BP, here is some ideas we have to help fix the problem/leak...no thanks we have it all figured out and are doing well...NOT. :)

Okay I'm off my rant.

I just dont know!! Some things I like about it and others I dont. Most of all I dont like the new rules and regulations every year!! They complain because the younger generations arent hunting as much, Well, I wonder why when they keep changing things and putting that bad taste in everyone's mouth!I'm about ready to follow suite with so many Utahns and give my money to another state every year. Every year they change things and i'm just getting tired of it!

They complain because the younger generations arent hunting as much, Well, I wonder why when they keep changing things and putting that bad taste in everyone's mouth!

+1 - Hit the nail directly on the head with that statement.

+1 again.
I think the idea of less crowding is great. but look at all the hunts planned on the same month. how do you create less crowding with more hunts at the some time. dont even get me started on 7 day hunts or having them start on Friday. I have a hard time getting the time off for a Saturday start hate to see what happens when we start on Friday.

I like that the DWR is wanting to change but the more I look at what they have on the table I don't see much changing. This looks more like change without direction. I know they can't please everyone all the time but I havn't heard anyone say "this looks like a good idea" only "well, I hope it works out." There sould be something in the new regs that people can look at and recognize as something positive instead of everyone wondering where the heck they came up with these new ideas.

I don't like how the GS muzzy and rifle hunts are so close to each other, i think the deer need a little bit of a break between hunts, with what they got proposed october is going to feel like one big hunt for the deer.

The two rifle hunts i'm not so sure about either, I kinda like it the way it is right now with just one.

i think they need to quit managing for the hunters they cant please everyone, they need to start managing for the deer. get the deer numbers back up and they can possibly have a need for 2 seasons.

i just think they need to quit trying to please someone every year. they need to get a plan for the benefit of the deer and elk and stick to it.

"The Ox" wrote:i think they need to quit managing for the hunters they cant please everyone, they need to start managing for the deer. get the deer numbers back up and they can possibly have a need for 2 seasons.

i just think they need to quit trying to please someone every year. they need to get a plan for the benefit of the deer and elk and stick to it.

Agreed

+1

"The Ox" wrote:i think they need to quit managing for the hunters they cant please everyone, they need to start managing for the deer. get the deer numbers back up and they can possibly have a need for 2 seasons.

i just think they need to quit trying to please someone every year. they need to get a plan for the benefit of the deer and elk and stick to it.

Isn't the state supposed to be managing our herds to be as healthy as possible. Not changing hunts so that they mysteriously increase their revenue every year without doing anything that truely benfits our herds.