Making guns more accurate

there are a lot of things you can do to make a rifle more accurate. Some are very basic and cheap like trigger jobs, glass bedding of the stock things like that. If you really wanted to you could send it off to a gunsmith and have him do a complete make over on your rifle. Like mapping and bluepriting the action puting a custom stock and trigger on it. Reloading is another thing that you can do to enhance accuracy and performance. If it were me I would start with a trigger job and glass bed the stock and see what you come up with. Good luck

CHESTER

:shock: Maybe you need to spend more time at the range. I can trail a monkey to shoot out to 600 yards...doesn't mean he is a good deer hunter.
Answer:handloads are the only way to go + good barrel + practice = kill shots.

Trade the gun for something that does not kick so stinking hard and go to the range more often.

Try handloading. If you don't you probably know someone who does, maybe they'll cook up some loads for you. Glass bed the stock maybe a trigger job. Take your ammo and gun to the range. Work on the loads trying different combos of bullets and powder (both type and weight). Good luck.

-Dan

Well Hey,

I would say don't worry about the gun so much an work on your skills. I would say spend more time out on the range and get a feel for the gun but its different between the range and the hunt. I have been guilty of buck fever and blew a couple of shots that should of been hits. It wasn't the gun that was off but rather it was me shakin an sweatin an my heart was beatin so fast that i just couldnt make the shot. I learned from a 32 special with open sights. Not that im bragging or anything but im really a dead eye with that gun but when i got my 30-06 with a scope i just couldnt get the hang of that scope. So i practiced at the range an brought my dad along to spot me so i can tune my scope in and also get a feel of my shooting pattern with the gun. With both you getting a feel and ur gun getting a tune in, i think you should be just fine but just dont get the case of buck fever when ur goin to make that shot lol

With a caliber that large you might want to try a muzzlebrake, but make sure you wear some ear protection while shooting because it is a lot noisier.

I shoot a 300 Remington Ultra Mag and I put a custom Jewell trigger in mine and my accuracy increased substantially. I'm not sure if it was the nosie or the kick or both but I was anticipating the shot with the cheap stock trigger. There is no "wall" with a good trigger to let you know that you are about to be mule kicked. I ordered mine and installed it myself with very little mod to the stock.

I love this site.

It sounds like your not knowledgable on shooting period. Perhaps it's a typo but I don't believe Winchester chambers for the 300 Weatherby. Perhaps what you have is a Weatherby Vanguard in 300 Win Mag? Check that first. You won't be able to chamber a 300 Weatherby in a Wincherser chamber but, the Winchester may go into the Weatherby chamber. If it does and it fires, very bad things can happen. Make sure you know what you have first.

Then those saying practice are right. It does little good to the trick's if YOU can't do your part. Learn from a bench with sand bags! The reason is to take away as much distraction from good technique as possible.
Example: It's very hard to work on breath and trigger control when you can't hold the sight's sitll. Also use a low power scope, it decreases the percieved wobbles at the target. From the bench you'll soon be able to tell who shoot's worse, you or the rifle. For most of us, the rifle shoots better.

If you can't shoot inch and a half to two inch group's; and your technique is good, it's not time to worry about the rifle. It's a rare rifle, new, that won't shoot into 2" out of the box with factory ammo.

If your there already, glass bedding is the next step. Don't do the first one alone, chances are you'll glue the barrel/action to the stock. Find someone who has done it to help; voice of experience!

I hate a bad trigger and clean mine up myself. You asked this question on accuracy tricks so I doubt you've the experience to do it. My first home done trigger job put a hole in my roof. If you can't afford a gunsmith to do it, you can learn to shoot a bad trigger; it's aggravating but dueable.
Until recently all Savage rifle owners learned to shoot bad triggers; most didn't even know they had a bad trigger. Savage has a reputation for accuracy because they're owners learned to shoot bad trigger's! Don't be to quick to invest in a new trigger.

If your not reloading your missing out. But read, read, read the mannual's. The listed loads are generally safe BUT, the top loads should be worked up to with caution. They were only safe in the test rifle with its chamber under condition's existing at that time. I've seen to many people get into reloading just grab a hot load to get the velocity. Then find that it's way to hot for they're rifle. Don't chase the listed velocitie's, you may get less or more; only a cronoghaph can tell you. then too outside temperature will also effect velocity AND chamber pressure. Read, read,read! Reloading is only as safe as the guy doing it. Reloading's biggest advantage today is it allows you to shoot more, the more you shoot, the better you'll shoot,,,in theory! I've a 1903 Springfield in 30-06
that shoot's Remington factory ammo,cheap factory ammo, into three quarter inch group's. That's awful good for a hunting rifle.

Remember about accuracy, it's a relative thing. We've been chasing one hole group's since gun's were invented and nobody's made it yet. worship an accurate rifle but for a two hundred yard hunting rifle, one and a half inch is accurate. I've killed more than my share of deer and the vast majority have been killed well under 200 yds.

Well this was an awfully windy opinion to an awfully short question. If your still awake, good night![/quote]

Yes I'm still awake even though I didn't ask the question, just reading through your reply. :)

Welcome to the site, and thanks for joining the forums. You seem to have a quite a bit of experience and knowledge and so I hope you stick around and continue to enlighten us.

How's the hunting up your way been lately? What states to you hunt in?

brett

Hello Brett,

I have hunted only Oregon for years. Many years ago, I hunted N.W. Montana a lot, I lived there. I no longer hunt the Willamette valley for Blacktails, I don't care for the very heavy cover or the rain. I think if the truth were known, I am more of a shooter than a hunter and the country this side of the Cascades is more favorable to my style and my rifle/cartridges.

I don't generally kill big deer, althought someday I'ed like a wall hanger.
Actually I know more about making hunting rifles and varmit rifles shoot than target rifle's. Accuracy is a relative thing but to achieve any degree of it, we must first define what it is to us. For me it's one ince or under at 100 yds from a bench with bags. What this means from a field position, I have no idea! Rather I do a lot of plinking with my rifles at unknown ranges and ues the sitting position or kneeling position. I have practiced both nso much that I can usually drop into either with the stress relieved from my body. It is from the bench thar I learned the value of a solid rest. I prefer passing on an unsupported shot than risking a bad one. There is no such thing as a once in a life time shot for me; I am a shooter.

If I may I'ed like to recommend a book to everyone. "the Accurate Rifle" x Warren Page. It's mostly about target shooting, ie: bench rest, but the things to be learned that can apply to hunting rifles are great. Let's understand something. All thats required of hunting, is finding the animal and getting within reasonable range. When the safty comes off, we are no longer hunters, we become shooter's! A big game animal is a magnificent thing and should be allowed a quick and dignified death; any less and we are murder's! I think I picked up that attitude while in Germany in the service.

In Germany, you do not watch the animal in it's death thro's and the grass or twigs in the mouth signify the last meal. I don't suggest we do all that, death is still death. But I do believe that ALL animals deserve a quick death. We believe we are a civilized people, that's why when people have been put to death, we don't go fire off a few rounds into their assorted body part's first. It is undignified, as much for the hangman as the condemed!

Hunting is a great and diginified sport, but it is only sport. Warren Page was right, "only accurate riflescare interesting"!

So much for my snobery; God I love this site.

Don[/quote]

Well I can tell from your readings that your know a lot more about shooting than I do. Who prints that book or where is it available? I agree animals deserver a clean kill shot and it's sickening to wound an animal. Nothing worse! Thanks for the reply.
brett