Mt.Dutton

I posted in Archery forum too just wondering if anyone has some good tips on the Dutton unit? I drew an archery tag for this year and seen some good bulls while scouting im just wondering how far they would move between now and then? And maybe a secret or 2?
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proutdoors
You have a GREAT tag! It is my favorite unit on the planet. My advice is to get off the beaten path and stay out all day. Find good water sources and hunt the unit east to west NOT north to south. I've been seeing some awesome bulls on Dutton this year. Remember to have fun and pack lots of water.
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dreaming big
thanks for the information, i have scouted this area this year a few times and have seen awesome bulls in there but from what i understand the general season tag holders put alot of pressure in the area for deer so the elk migrate elsewhere. I have been trying to draw this tag for a few years now i just want the odds to be in my favor
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I've been down there several times. I have the early rifle hunt and can't find a thing. I've walked nearly every drainage and can only find 310 type bulls. It looks like its a bad year. Pro's directions suck and he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. How about you other guys. Are you guys even seeing anything remotely nice? Where? gps coordinates would be nice. I don't want just some help, your hotspots will work! Thanks in advance.
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dreaming big
Well like i said i scouted this and seen good bulls, like 350 360 class, they are in there the first morning i was in there i seen 2 impressive ones. im just worried about where they are in late august. I did a 4hr hike at the summit and went in some nasty stuff and had no luck except for a shed hunter so maybe your too high?
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killerbee
oh, theres a good chance he's to high.......... lol lol
dont let him fool you, they have some big ones spotted [they meaning pro:)]
stinkystomper is on a trail of the biggest bull in the unit, don't let him fool you, he does have one great thing going for him, he's got PROOUTDOORS in his back pocket. and a missle launcher for a gun.

you'll have to shovel through all the B.S. to get to the good stuff.

stinky- what brings you around? finally getting fed up with the crap on the other side?


this is the best site on the WWW, but the filter is much tighter. thats what makes it great!

but if BOBCAT tries to come over, it's gonna hit the fan lol
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Actually pro pointed me this direction. I have a question for all you "experts" on here. Chubby was refrenced to in a former thread. His pic was even pointed at. That picture showed a bull with a double sword on his left side. I believe that was suppose to be chubby in 2007.??... I saw the supposed sheds (via pic) from his 2008 season. In 2008 he had double swords on both sides which were both at least 15+ inches long. IMO a bull won't just sprout out an extra double sword in one year. Wouldn't that pic of chubby have to have a double sword on the right side as well, or at least a small double sword in order for him to have two giant double swords last year? I'm just positive that they guy who found these sheds and chubby has to have two bulls that are two completely separate giant bulls which he is mistaking for chubby. What do you guys think??? :-k

COME ON.... YOU DON'T LIKE BOBCATBESS???? WHAT THE HECK!!!! ROFL!
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killerbee
BUT ( i dont know how you guys do the giant letters) if this "cubby" was hit last year with an arrow, wouldn't it be hard to guess what it would do to his headgear?


dont get me wrong, you and your group know a hell of alot more than me on this bull, but i hit could really change his antler growth-- right??
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killerbee
oh and no, i cant stand bessy,d- 13, sageadvise, ziggy, ---- yada yada. (theres more)

it blows me away that a HUNTING FORUM can be run by a bunch of guys who absolutly contribute NOTHING to the HUNTING site.

but oh well, this is the place to be. awsome mods, that dont even need to try that hard cause all of the members are great!
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proutdoors
Word to the wise, do NOT believe ANYTHING that stinkystomper posts! lol I apologize for directing him to this site Brett, it's all down hill from here. (**!!)

I agree killerbee that an injury can have a major impact on antler growth in following years. It takes a lot of energy to grow antlers, and if a bull is trying to heal or is recovering from an injury he will have less energy to grow antlers anywhere near the size of 430. He could also be on the downhill slide due to age, or be worn down from the rut. A bull has to be in great shape to get peak antler growth. Luckily I have seen some dang healthy bulls on Dutton this summer. 10sign:
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If the bull is hurt on hs left side his horns will be affected on his right side, If I remember correct.
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MuleyMadness
I've been down there several times. I have the early rifle hunt and can't find a thing. I've walked nearly every drainage and can only find 310 type bulls. It looks like its a bad year. Pro's directions suck and he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. How about you other guys. Are you guys even seeing anything remotely nice? Where? gps coordinates would be nice. I don't want just some help, your hotspots will work! Thanks in advance.
 YEA RIGHT, don't know you, but 1 quick read of know this info and I knew it was bogus. :)
I apologize for directing him to this site Brett, it's all down hill from here.
 Thanks PRO. :) I'm sure he can't be to bad if your tagging along with him. :)

I assume your guiding him, guiding anyone else?
If the bull is hurt on hs left side his horns will be affected on his right side, If I remember correct.
 Believe there is a lot of truth in that statement.
I agree killerbee that an injury can have a major impact on antler growth in following years. It takes a lot of energy to grow antlers, and if a bull is trying to heal or is recovering from an injury he will have less energy to grow antlers anywhere near the size of 430.
 I've seen a buck that was injured the year before, killed the next year and was 200" plus monster. Because of the injury the year before, he grew 8 or 9 points on his left side when he really was probably just a huge wide typical 5 point. At least he right side was, with no cheaters. So why would a bull in his prime be any different? Guess in depends on the injury placement/severity. But
prime age and habitat might be more important than injury.
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MuleyMadness
As for the Dutton tag, haven't been there lately to find Stinkystomper a bull. Sure he has plenty of help and expertise himself. :thumb But I/we did jump a nice bull on the Boulder Plateau will hiking to some fishing holes. Who has a Boulder tag, I have some directions to him. :)
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I'm not talking about him going from a double sword to a single sword because he was shot. This was pics of chubby from the two previous years before the arrow. As for wounds causing deformation, I would totally agree. When I was 12 I shot a deer that, for my area was a giant. He had to be pushing 290lbs live weight and had tons of mass. However his main beams twisted every way imaginable and only had two solid points on each side. The rest were little drop tines going everywhere. When we butchered him his front shoulder was completely detached and all scarred up. His neck had softball sized tumors all over it and we pulled out no less than 30 .223 full metal jackets from his body. The local farmer saw us on the edge of his property and came over to see what we had. To our surprise he had an ar-15 in his hands. I was half tempted to put a 130gr soft point through that jerk. But back to the point. Could a healthy bull simply sprout and extra monster sword in one year?

Hey pro, you don't like me and that's fine. I've never like you either so at least we see eye to eye. I hired you for my hunt cuz your my charity case for this year so don't let that go to your head, and yes I will bring you extra crayons and coloring books this fall. =;
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Stinky, I believe a bull can grow an whole extra tine in one year. If I remember right Lucky that was shot in 2007 had that huge extra browtine grow that year, 2006 pictures of him showed no browtine there. I could be wrong, but I believe its possible. Another bull I was watching in the spring of 2008 was a 7x9 with a huge extra 5th on one side yet in the fall he was a 7x8 and completely lost any sign of that extra 5th. I think if they can lose a whole tine in one year it is very possible to gain a large tine in one year. Just my 2 cents... by the way, good luck on your hunt, save a big one for the late rifle hunters!
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Lots of coments but no advise for dreaming big except for Pro. Pro's advise is good except I usually hunt Dutton West to East not East to West. :)
Dreaming check your PM
Allen
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dreaming big
Thanks yak!
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proutdoors
"yak4fish" wrote:Lots of coments but no advise for dreaming big except for Pro. Pro's advise is good except I usually hunt Dutton West to East not East to West. :)
Dreaming check your PM
Allen
That's because you are usually chasing cows on Dutton, they go the opposite way. lol
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That's because you are usually chasing cows on Dutton, they go the opposite way.
Yep, my son and I drew Dutton cow tags again this year can't seem to draw a bull tag though.I'm about ready to jump to a differant unit for LE bulls to many people putting in for Dutton the last couple of years.
My brother drew a Dutton early rifle tag (14 points)and I will be there to help him pack it out. I'll have him hunt east to west :thumb
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NONYA
"stinkystomper" wrote:I'm not talking about him going from a double sword to a single sword because he was shot. This was pics of chubby from the two previous years before the arrow. As for wounds causing deformation, I would totally agree. When I was 12 I shot a deer that, for my area was a giant. He had to be pushing 290lbs live weight and had tons of mass. However his main beams twisted every way imaginable and only had two solid points on each side. The rest were little drop tines going everywhere. When we butchered him his front shoulder was completely detached and all scarred up. His neck had softball sized tumors all over it and we pulled out no less than 30 .223 full metal jackets from his body. The local farmer saw us on the edge of his property and came over to see what we had. To our surprise he had an ar-15 in his hands. I was half tempted to put a 130gr soft point through that jerk. But back to the point. Could a healthy bull simply sprout and extra monster sword in one year?

Hey pro, you don't like me and that's fine. I've never like you either so at least we see eye to eye. I hired you for my hunt cuz your my charity case for this year so don't let that go to your head, and yes I will bring you extra crayons and coloring books this fall. =;
Why would you even make such a comment abount considering shooting someone because you suspect they wounded a deer? ](*,)
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I have a Dutton muzzy tag and I am looking for a guide, can any point me to a good established outfitter?

With my work schedule, I can't put in the time to do the scouting that I wanted to do.
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MuleyMadness
Prooutdoors guides on their now I believe. Shoot him a PM and ask him.

Or check out Goochs Guides, www.huntgoochs.com.
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Kemo Sabe
"bowstalker" wrote:a good established outfitter
 http://www.hmhunting.com/Home_Page.html
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I to also guide on the Dutton.

Bowstalker I sent a PM to you.
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proutdoors
"bowstalker" wrote:I have a Dutton muzzy tag and I am looking for a guide, can any point me to a good established outfitter?

With my work schedule, I can't put in the time to do the scouting that I wanted to do.
 Make sure whomever you hire knows the Dutton real well. It is a tricky unit for those who don't know it top to bottom and north to south. I think there are only a few folks that have spent the time needed to give you your money's worth on this unit. Knowing where the big bulls go when pressured is what you should heavily base your choice on, IMHO.
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6x6 bull
Stinky not everyone on this site is a guide hater. I for one am glad to see them pm a guy that is looking. I for one would be PROud to have someone like Pro or slam helping me on a unit I know nothing about.
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killerbee
i dont know him personally, but if i had the tag, the first phonecall i'd make is to PROOUTDOORS!


a little looking around and i think you'll find he is "the dutton" man!

stinky: they run a real tight ship around here, thats what makes this site the best on the net, you wont get away with the same stuff you can get away with on the other site.

but honestly, if you check the site out, you'll find you like it better because of it!
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9er
"stinkystomper" wrote:goin for nuke #3 here.

WTF??? you must be a mean person lol welcome to the MADNESS

9er
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Good grief, i came on here today to get AWAY from Dutton threads!! ](*,)
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proutdoors
"skull krazy" wrote:Good grief, i came on here today to get AWAY from Dutton threads!! ](*,)
 Whatever, you stir up most of them over there. =; lol
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OMG! lord help us all. Now the whole nightmares on mmadness? Hopefully my name isn't mud over here. At least pro's being a good boy. I expect you to follow suit slammy. It's like goin to a new high shcool when your a teen. You get a whole new reputation. Someone on here might just think I'm normal. lol
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"stinkystomper" wrote:OMG! lord help us all. Now the whole nightmares on mmadness? Hopefully my name isn't mud over here. At least pro's being a good boy. I expect you to follow suit slammy. It's like goin to a new high shcool when your a teen. You get a whole new reputation. Someone on here might just think I'm normal. lol
 They'll quickly learn Stinky....don't get your hopes up. lol
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It seems like PRO has a made a name for himself on here as a guide. Has one on here had the chance to hunt with him or his outfit? With all this positive hype, I guy couldn't go wrong with booking a hunt with him.

Who else has a Dutton tag on here?
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dreaming big
well obviously me
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I've hunted and guided with PRO for a few years...he's an alright guy as long as you keep the Dews flowing..lol
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Mike, it was good talking with you the other day. I look forward to seeing you in Sept.
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ummmhmmmhmmm....hmhhhhmmmmmhmhmh.....hmmmmmmmmmm-hmmhmmmmmmmm!

That's all I'm allowed to say in muleymadness, the mods have my hands tied and mouth ductaped shut!
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NONYA
Cant imagine why,you came on here like super Troll,your first 10 posts were enough to get you kicked off most sites. :-k
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