Obama signs bill allowing guns in National Parks

Philip Elliott, Associated Press Writer
On Friday May 22, 2009, 5:24 pm EDT

WASHINGTON (AP)
-- President Barack Obama warned overeager shoppers and greedy credit card companies alike on Friday to act responsibly as he signed into law a bill designed to protect debt-ridden consumers from surprise charges.

The White House staged a signing ceremony in the Rose Garden, an indication of the legislation's importance to Obama. Though opposed by many financial companies, the bill cleared Congress with broad support.

Obama made clear that he didn't champion the changes with the intention of helping those who buy more than they can afford through "reckless spending or wishful thinking."

"Some get in over their heads by not using their heads," the president said. "I want to be clear: We do not excuse or condone folks who've acted irresponsibly."

And yet, he said, for many of the millions of Americans, trying to get out of debt has been made difficult and bewildering by their credit card companies.

Nearly 80 percent of Americans have credit cards and half of those carry a balance, according to the White House. The Federal Reserve estimates the nation is some $2.5 trillion in debt, a figure that does not include home mortgages.

Obama said many people have gotten "trapped" because of the downturn in the economy that has turned family budgets on their heads. But, he said, "part of it is the practices of the credit card companies."

He criticized policies that allowed for confusing fine print; the sudden appearance of unexplained fees on bills; unannounced shifts in payment deadlines, interest charges or rate increases even when payments aren't late; and payments directed to balances with the lowest interest rates rather than the highest.

"We're here to put a change to all that," Obama said.

One part of the bill Obama did not publicly celebrate at the signing, a gun amendment. The measure by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., allows people to bring loaded guns into national parks and wildlife refuges.

The addition of the amendment to the bill -- and Obama's acceptance of it -- was viewed as a bitter disappointment for gun-control advocates.

They watched gun-rights supporters gain a victory from a Democratic-controlled Congress and a Democratic president that they couldn't achieve under a Republican Congress and president. Many blamed the National Rifle Association, which pushed hard for the gun law.

Democrats lawmakers and aides said they didn't have enough time to send the bill to the House-Senate conference committee -- where the gun provision could have been removed without a vote -- and still get the bill to Obama by the Memorial Day weekend as he requested.


The new credit card rules, which go into effect in nine months, prohibit companies from giving cards to people under 21 unless they can prove they have the means to pay the debt or a parent or guardian co-signs. A customer also will have to be more than 60 days behind on a payment before seeing a rate increase on an existing balance. Even then, the lender will be required to restore the previous, lower rate if the cardholder pays the minimum balance on time for six months.

And consumers also will have to receive 45 days' notice and an explanation before their interest rates increase.

Despite being touted as a victory for consumers, financial experts said the bill could have unintended consequences as credit card companies look for ways to make up for potential lost revenue. Those measures could include more cards with annual fees and the loss of a grace period before interest accrues, which would affect even those consumers who pay off their balance each month.

Last year, the Nilson Report estimated that more than 700 million credit cards were in circulation in the United States. That's more than two cards for every man, woman and child.

The president noted that nearly half of all Americans carry a balance on their credit cards, and that their average balance is more than $7,000.

Obama decried the "uneasy, unstable dependence" that a minority of card users have on credit.

"So we're not going to give people a free pass, and we expect consumers to live within their means and pay what they owe," Obama said. "But we also expect financial institutions to act with the same sense of responsibility that the American people aspire to in their own lives."
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I could leagally carry concealed with a permit in a Nartional Park since George Bush signed this into law http://ccw.azdps.gov/news/010909.asp . I guess they made it somehow different so you can carry openly.
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One part of the bill Obama did not publicly celebrate at the signing, a gun amendment. The measure by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., allows people to bring loaded guns into national parks and wildlife refuges.

The addition of the amendment to the bill -- and Obama's acceptance of it -- was viewed as a bitter disappointment for gun-control advocates.

They watched gun-rights supporters gain a victory from a Democratic-controlled Congress and a Democratic president that they couldn't achieve under a Republican Congress and president. Many blamed the National Rifle Association, which pushed hard for the gun law.

Well yes Bush did sign the bill originally: The Department of the Interior has amended the NPS and FWS regulations related to carry and possession of firearms on their respective lands. The new regulations become effective on January 9, 2009.

But if you had not heard the law was overturned by one of many Liberal gun hating FEDERAL U.S. District JUDGES we currently have in the USA. Which would of made it illegal for you to carry a loaded firearm in National Parks since it was overturned by Federal U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly on 3/19/2009.

The Gun laws in this Country are something we as U.S Citizens have to keep constant tabs on in order to be on the legal side of things as they seem to change with short notice. Would not want to be on the wrong side of a Federal law or any law that would revoke my right to own a firearm.


The measure by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., allows people to bring loaded guns into national parks and wildlife refuges. Coburn, slipped this ammendment into the credit card bill to restore the right to carry a loaded firearm in National Parks and Wildlife Refuges.



Judge Overturns National Parks' Weapons Rule 3/19/2009
Washington DC(AP) ―

A federal judge on Thursday blocked a federal rule allowing people to carry concealed, loaded guns in national parks and wildlife refuges.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly overturns a rule issued in the waning days of the Bush administration.

The rule, which took effect Jan. 11, and allowed visitors to carry a loaded gun into a park or wildlife refuge as long as the person had a permit for a concealed weapon and the state where the park or refuge was located allowed concealed firearms. Previously, guns in parks had been severely restricted.

The Obama administration had said it was reviewing the Bush rule but had defended it in court.

A spokeswoman for Interior Secretary Ken Salazar declined to comment Thursday, citing the ongoing court case.

The Bush administration issued the gun rule in December in response to letters from half the Senate asking officials to lift the restrictions on guns in parks, which were adopted by the Reagan administration in the early 1980s.

The rule went further than a draft proposal issued a year ago and would have allowed concealed weapons even in parks located in states that prohibit the carrying of guns in state parks. Some states allow concealed weapons but also ban guns from parks.

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, one of two groups that sued to block the rule, called the judge's ruling a victory for the people.

"We're happy that this headlong rush to push more guns into more places has been slowed," he said.

Bryan Faehner, associate director of the National Parks Conservation Association, which also brought suit, said he was extremely pleased.

"We're especially glad to hear that the court is agreeing with the park rangers and the public who are concerned that there will be negative impacts from the (now-overturned) regulation and increased likelihood for opportunistic poaching of wildlife and increased risk of violence to the public."

The National Rifle Association had pushed for the Bush rule change, saying law-abiding citizens had the right to protect themselves and their families while enjoying America's national parks and wildlife refuges. The previous regulations were inconsistent and unclear, the NRA said.

A group representing park rangers, retirees and conservation organizations protested the Bush rule change, complaining that it could lead to confusion and increased danger for visitors, rangers and other law enforcement agencies.
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This is what %#$$@& me off about Washington . They attatch this "rider" legislation to other bills that have no revelance to each other. Credit cards and carry laws??? come on!!!.These bills should stand and fall on their own merits. And budgets,we need a line item veto ,this country isn't a yard sale where you buy the whole box of %#$@ or nothing. More useless and costly %$&# gets pushed through this way. This one went in our favor , but it doesn't make it right. I'll get off my soap box now!! :tz
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TheGreatwhitehunter
Malloy805 I am in full agreement with you this is the kind of crap that have no revelance to each other the Demecrat Liberals have been doing for years to pass there BS agenda on to us citizens. They sneak the stuff through in unrelated bills but this time the good guys sneaked one past them.
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79Ford
Agreed Malloy. We're just lucky that this time it went in our favor. Next time we may not be so lucky. Next time they may take our guns away with a highway budget bill or something totally irrelevant like that. It's all about pushing things through that normally would not get approved by piggybacking them on a higher profile bill that has enough momentum to carry itself and these others through with it. I dont like it, and never have. If you want "x" then put it through as "x", not as "abcdefx". :>/
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TheGreatwhitehunter
Just FYI the way I understand it is the new law allowing concealed firearms in National parks will not be legally in effect until about 9 months from the time Obama signed the bill into law as this is when the Credit Card bill takes effect. Since the gun law was a rider on the Credit card bill the 2 laws will take effect on the same day they are written to be law. Just a heads up.
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southwind
No law will stop me from exercising my god given right to protect my family or myself. When in bear/cougar country I will be packing heat.
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