Pine Valley Elk Permit Scam?

There is... Look high! not very many though... good luck...

There are a few up on top I guess, haven't seen them just know guys that have. I know there are a few between Mountain Meadows and Grass Valley, and you can also find them on the Gumhill occasionally.

you can also find them on the Gumhill occasionally

I have never heard of the Gumhill??

If you are headed north on hwy 18 it's on your right hand side as you drop down cottonwood towards Enterprise.

oh ok, I know exactly where your talking about. Thanks for the help!

Yep no problem, good luck!

I hope you haven't wasted your time looking for elk on Gum Hill. I live in Enterprise and asked around tonight and nobody has ever heard of elk on that mountain. I hunted deer there on the muzzleloader and know several others that did and only saw a few deer, let alone an elk. Don't get me wrong there might have been at one time but I have never heard that. There's no water on top unless you drop down towards town or cross highway 18 and driving that road everyday I sure hope there's not an elk in the road. From what I understand there was a nice bull taken by gray's ranch on the archery hunt. I'm going to try and get more information but I've heard it might score 380+. Try between there and Atchinson mountain. It's a lot of country but there in there somewhere. Also, west of Enteprise along the nevada border there is a small herd but you will be competing with a lot of other hunters and very few elk. Of course, that's how the entire unit is. Good Luck.

Elko,
That's why I said occasionally, and I have seen them cross the highway from the Gumhill to Communication. I have also spotlighted and seen them in Hafens fields right there southeast of the Gumhill. But the majority of the elk on that unit are between mtn meadows and grass valley. I'm not trying to lead anyone a stray.

thanks again for your help guys! I have hunted greys ranch for the past 3 years and havent even seen signs of elk being in the area... I was out west of enterprise on opening morning, a few hunters but no elk... I'm going out again this weekend so maybe I'll try greys again or head over towards pinto??

just another quick question.... As far as the greys ranch area, does anyone know where they are getting their water from?? I havent seen any creeks or streams around there, and I doubt they are drinking out of the cattle ponds cuz I would have seen at least some signs... I used my gps to hike to some so called "springs", but they must be dried up cuz the only water around was the water in my camel back! ](*,)

You're right there isn't much water around there. I've seen them water in the spring in the bottom of Horse Valley and I've also seen them water over the hill to the west on the Mtn Meadows side at a couple of spots. Out west of enterprise is tough cuz there's even less elk and less water, especially this year.

I'm glad to finally find some fellow frustrated Pine Valley elk hunters. I have spent considerable time researching this and scouting and hunting. Since it is the last week of the rifle hunt, I'll tell you this. There is a lot of sign out west. Fresh sign even a month ago. Head west of Enterprise and take the last major dirt road north before you hit the border. In fact, go to the border, turn around and go back about .6-.7 of a mile and turn left (this is the western side of the big loop that runs from the Nephi Spring Area back behind Studhorse Draw and up almost to the base of Mt. Escalante toward the Nevada border). Follow that road up 2-3 miles (I'm guessing) until you come to an open area with an abandoned corral and water trough. There are 3-4 large burn areas in there. There is a lot of sign in there. I saw fresh tracks in there a month ago and a lot of elk poop. There were probably only 5-10 in there a month ago, but there are likely more now that there have been a few snow storms. Saw one of the biggest mule deer bucks I've ever seen in there about a month ago. Anyway, if you see a white Ford F-150 pick up in there this week, come say hello and stay QUIET and behind cover. This is my last chance to drop one this week so don't blow it for me (or for you). Best of luck to you.

Also, so you know, I personally spoke with the Southern Utah biologist about this and he said that of the 15-20 cow elk permits issued last year on the rifle hunt, only 4 filled their tags and most of them if not all of them were taken on the border. He says they water out to Nephi Spring and hug the border and not to waste time looking anywhere else. Good luck.