Sometimes you just gotta ditch class!!!

Man, that's a great bull J0n...and certainly a good reason to skip class...LOL!

Awesome bull! is that other one a bull too? if it is he looks a lil bigger?

Your here in Utah now huh. Welcome.

As for the Bull. I would say he scores an even "Good enough for me" and 3/8ths. BOOOOM!!!

He looks like he has it all, fronts royals, backs, and mass.

Nice work :thumb

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nice pics!!!!!

Not sure about B&C, but he scores number 1 with me. Good job on the foto =D> . It was worth cutting class for.

Thanks for 'ditching' for us. :)

Big bull!! I'll say he is pushin 380"

id put him at 345-350 hes little shot in his 3rds and 4ths. Great bull though the best thing is he will be a bigger bull in a few months.

How did you get such clear pictures with the scope? Ive been trying but cant seem to get them that good..

Ya! 10sign:

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It looks like bonehead found my not so secret spot lol As far as getting the pictures that clear it may have more to do with the guys spotting scope rather than my photography skills.

Nice pics bone and jon, I would somewhere around 350-360". 10sign:

That bull looks really familiar. I think I may have last years sheds of that bull, if not, it's a close relative. He'll go 370+. The only think I think that hurts him is the length of his main beam. He's a shooter either way you look at it.

He's all of 370 without the kickers. If I had to guess his overall gross score it would definitely be over 380. Awesome bull! Can you imagine what he'll look like next fall!!!!

WOW!!!!!

Dustin

What is it that you guys/gals are seeing that im not?? #-o

I come up with 340-350 bull plus the extras so im thinking 360 max. I am probably way off, so teach me what im missing for future reference

9er

"9er" wrote:What is it that you guys/gals are seeing that im not?? #-o

I come up with 340-350 bull plus the extras so im thinking 360 max. I am probably way off, so teach me what im missing for future reference

9er

i'm with you all the way, i cant grow any more inches on him then 350. WHICH IS STILL A GREAT BULL!! in the picture where he is a little farther off he looks a little bigger, but in the close up he shinks a little. and since i mentioning it.... take a look at the bulls right side in both pictures-- that kicker coming off his royal and his 5 ths dont even look similer. in the close up that kicker only looks to be 5 inches long and his 5's look to be 8" long-- in the other pic that kicker looks like a good 8+" long and the 5's looks like it's over 12+" . is it just camera angle??

Looks like I was one of the higher guesses on his score so I'll tell you all how I got to the final tally!

I'm this expert guide that has seen hundreds of bulls killed and.............. J/K LOL!

The truth is, I have a bull hanging at home that is very similar (scary similar) to this bull. The frame of this bull is matched well with him and mass and tine length. It is a bull that my wife (Steph) shot about 6 years ago. Her bull scores 372. I have 4 other bulls here also that score 321, 345, 362, and 380+ (haven't sat down and really got a good score on the 380, just rough score).

As for the bull in the picture, I disagree with whoever said he had weak 3rd's and 4th's. I think they are pretty good for a bull his size. They aren't spectacular, but pretty good. Someone else said that his mainbeams were short and I would agree ---- I would guess him at under 50" or right at 50". But man look at his eyeguard's, they are longer than his 4th's and I would guess his 4ths at 20" or so. My wife's bull that is 372 has this same type of measurements (ie 49" mainbeams). I think her bull's 4ths are even a little shorter than the bull in the pics.

As far a camera angles, look at each point in each frame (I used bonepilers pics too!). For instance the 5th on his right side looks really short in the second pic (bonepiler's) and looks really good in the first pic. I think that this is due to the angle of the pic, the tine is coming into the camera making it look shorter in the 2nd pic.

I think the extras are 7-8" for the bigger one and 2-3" for the other.

Anyway, that's how I came up with over 380 gross. Just my .02, I'm no expert. Just taking a guess. One thing I'm looking forward to is hopefully someone like bonepiler will get his sheds or at least get a tape on them so we will know how much he really does score. That is called "practice" and it really helps me to judge them in the field and then find out how much they really do score. Go get them sheds guys!

Have a great day,

Dustin

I guess I cant score to well because he looks a lot bigger then 350. I would say in the upper 370’s

Nice pics! 3rds are a little short but the 4ths look ok to me. Either way, BOOM! Thanks for sharin!

"HUNTIN FOR LIFE" wrote:id put him at 345-350 hes little shot in his 3rds and 4ths. Great bull though the best thing is he will be a bigger bull in a few months.

Well there i go again, opening my mouth to soon. terrible loss this bull would have been a dandy next year

http://www.muleymadness.com/forum/posting.php?mode=quote&f=4&p=49205
http://utahwildlife.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4438

Actually he wont be getting any bigger. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't this the bull that was hit by a car after being chased into the road near Ironton hill in Springville. The Antlers are in a picture sitting on the desk in the DWR office shortly after. To bad.