Spider Bull Is Dead!!

Gongrat's to Denny Austad of Idaho for falling the pending new world record. =D>
377" frame, 123" of extra's. :not-worthy
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Do you mind me asking were you got the numbers. I looked on the Mossback site and it says nothing of a score.

To bad some regular Joe Shmo did not get him. Congrats to Denny, but the guy has so many bulls over 400 already. Guess money gets alot of things.
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MULEY7MM
I got those same measurements in an e-mail who knows so many rumors fly when there is a big animal killed
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Those numbers are right from Doyle this morning.

unofficially 500 4/8's gross =D>
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MULEY7MM
thats right from the source :thumb
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MuleyMadness
Holy Batman, so this should shatter the WR right?
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WOW, it was just a matter of time. This bull will always be a mystery in all minds i believe. Good job Doyle and Denny, very very nice bull. SAme with yours you got Doug. =D> :thumb
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We'll see if it makes any more than SCI. I hate to bash someone when they kill a bull like that, way to go, but I can't put letting a guide find my animal and call me up to go get it in my definition of 100% fair chase.
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MULEY7MM
This was posted and said to be spidey
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MuleyMadness
Looks like him to me.
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sneekeepete
Man I can't wait to see better pictures of that bad boy! That this is crazy big!
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Pic are on mossbacks site. WOW!
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I got 2 pictures this morning of him
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one hunting fool
thats Richfield its Jorgensen honda in the back so i would say its him
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chet
the bull with the cape still on is not spidey!
awesome bull tho!
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MuleyMadness
Agreed chet, bull in truck is him. 2nd bull caped is NOT.
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MuleyMadness
Just saw the pics on Mossback's site, that bull is simply RIDICULOUS!! Don't expect to ever see anything like him again, UNREAL.
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sneekeepete
Ya that thing is out of control big!!! I can't beleive the mass and length of his tine all in one! Rediculous!
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79Ford
Bitter sweet........

Congrats to Mr. Austad on taking such a nice wall hanger. It would be nice to see some other pics of this beast, but i'm sure they are all under lock and key waiting for the highest bidder to put them in a magazine. Hopefully he passed his wild genes on and we get to see some more bulls like him in the future.

Just out of curiosity does anyone know or have a guess as to how old Spidey is, or was? I'm intersted to know how many years it took him to get that big.
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Supposedly the Tines Up boys have his sheds from last year and they only score 360, I would guess he's probably six-seven years.
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killerbee
the pics on the mossback site are crazy big!!! huge bull! makes you wander if they will just keep getting bigger and bigger?? congrats to mr austad. and the mossback team. like it or not they can get it done.
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HUNTIN FOR LIFE
the tines up boys do have his sheds from last year but they were right at 400 not 360. regardless 100in. increase in one year that is unreal.
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Huge29
"utahpredator_7" wrote:We'll see if it makes any more than SCI. I hate to bash someone when they kill a bull like that, way to go, but I can't put letting a guide find my animal and call me up to go get it in my definition of 100% fair chase.
 WTH does that mean?
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I think what he means is that there is a huge difference IMO of spending day after day hunting hard and working your butt off for a great bull and having 20+ guys living on the mountain and combing the hills looking for yor bull, then calling you on the phone and guiding you directly to it after a great short stack of pancakes and bacon. Just my humble opinion. I'm sure many of you will take offense and it is possible the details of my scenario are askew( they probably had sausage) but that method of taking game does leave a bitter taste( to all but those on the pay roll). I understand it is not a gimmee and the animal still has to be found once the well rested hunter arrives and there are many variables that come into play (leaving the bullets in the truck) but come on...... Any way let the antogonistic remarks flow and congrats Denny on a beatifull prchase.
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Hiker
What a Hawg! That bull is incredible. 100+ inches of growth in one year, unreal! 10sign: 10sign: 10sign: =D>
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Comm'on Guys... isn't the fair chase hunt arguement getting a wee-bit tired on this site every time someone starts talking about guides? I do not know if it originates from jealousy due to the fact that it obviously requires a lot of money to get that kind of hunt done or if it truly about fair chase but the arguement is tired and those who have the money and choose to do guided hunts have as much right to legally hunt these animals as the group wearing the soles off their boots.

I am just thrilled that is 5.5 weeks the 4th season of rifle in CO will be upon us, I will most likely see elk, I would be thrilled to fill my freezer with a cow. None of the elk I see will have names like Spidey or an internet blog dedicated to them but if I get one I will never forget it....

nobullets
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The one thing that I got from the photo's besides the awesome size of the bull is the age of the hunter. It makes me feel that maybe I can draw two tags before I retire from hunting. I sure hope I am able to follow the young guys when I get to be his age. Congrats to all involved. Now lets get back to hunting beautiful elk with no names please.
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proutdoors
"speedgoat" wrote:Comm'on Guys... isn't the fair chase hunt arguement getting a wee-bit tired on this site every time someone starts talking about guides? I do not know if it originates from jealousy due to the fact that it obviously requires a lot of money to get that kind of hunt done or if it truly about fair chase but the arguement is tired and those who have the money and choose to do guided hunts have as much right to legally hunt these animals as the group wearing the soles off their boots.

I am just thrilled that is 5.5 weeks the 4th season of rifle in CO will be upon us, I will most likely see elk, I would be thrilled to fill my freezer with a cow. None of the elk I see will have names like Spidey or an internet blog dedicated to them but if I get one I will never forget it....

nobullets
Good post!
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MuleyMadness
Agreed Speedgoat good post!
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Another congrats needs to go out to the state of Utah for the unofficial new world record. Like the elk management or not Utah is a big bull factory. This bull and the other monsters that are taken there are the reason out of staters like myself are willing to wait 12+ years to draw a tag.
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Hntn4em
Thank you SpeedGoat!!! Enough B&M about all of it. If you don't like it then don't do it, but at the same time everyone has the right to do what is right by them within the confines of the law. So the real question is, where is the one bigger than Spider now? [-o<
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Where I'll draw my tag next year... :-$
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79Ford
"speedgoat" wrote:Comm'on Guys... isn't the fair chase hunt arguement getting a wee-bit tired on this site every time someone starts talking about guides? I do not know if it originates from jealousy due to the fact that it obviously requires a lot of money to get that kind of hunt done or if it truly about fair chase but the arguement is tired and those who have the money and choose to do guided hunts have as much right to legally hunt these animals as the group wearing the soles off their boots.
nobullets
 Well said speedgoat.
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[quote][I think what he means is that there is a huge difference IMO of spending day after day hunting hard and working your butt off for a great bull and having 20+ guys living on the mountain and combing the hills looking for yor bull, then calling you on the phone and guiding you directly to it after a great short stack of pancakes and bacon. Just my humble opinion. I'm sure many of you will take offense and it is possible the details of my scenario are askew( they probably had sausage) but that method of taking game does leave a bitter taste( to all but those on the pay roll). I understand it is not a gimmee and the animal still has to be found once the well rested hunter arrives and there are many variables that come into play (leaving the bullets in the truck) but come on...... Any way let the antogonistic remarks flow and congrats Denny on a beatifull prchase./quote]

Yes, the argument is geting tired...but I agree with you Boomer and that is one nice purchase.
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The Ox
"Boomer06" wrote:I think what he means is that there is a huge difference IMO of spending day after day hunting hard and working your butt off for a great bull and having 20+ guys living on the mountain and combing the hills looking for yor bull, then calling you on the phone and guiding you directly to it after a great short stack of pancakes and bacon. Just my humble opinion. I'm sure many of you will take offense and it is possible the details of my scenario are askew( they probably had sausage) but that method of taking game does leave a bitter taste( to all but those on the pay roll). I understand it is not a gimmee and the animal still has to be found once the well rested hunter arrives and there are many variables that come into play (leaving the bullets in the truck) but come on...... Any way let the antogonistic remarks flow and congrats Denny on a beatifull prchase.
99% agreed i heard it was ham!
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Mark
I have feeling that none of you guide haters has ever hunted with a guide, have you? I seriously doubt that you are even remotely close to being correct in your assumption of how it works. You're simply bitter because it isn't you standing next to that rack. I could go in to all sorts of remarks related to your personal character, but I think you all know where your shortcomings are so I won't waste my time.
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MuleyMadness
A great link on the REAL story here if interested...

http://www.kutv.com/content/outdoors/story.aspx?content_id=470D4189-FAB0-42EF-9876-85E3D2261C21&gsa=true
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NONYA
Id like to see what he could do with a $20 otc tag and no guide... zzz
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Mark
"NONYA" wrote:Id like to see what he could do with a $20 otc tag and no guide... zzz
 Probably as much as most of us. Probably more than some are willing to go through. My guess is he could out hunt more than 75% of the hunters right here on this forum. Does hiring a guide make him a worthless hunter in your humble opinion?

I worked for a wealthy individual at one time that spent a lot of $$ on Governors tags and OTC tags. Sometimes he hired a guide, other times it was a DIY hunt. It was dependent on the area. If he knew the area he hunted without a guide. If it was a new area or an area that required a guide he hired one.

Having money doesn't make you less of a hunter. In fact, it opens up numerous opportunities. I have a feeling that's what most people are really envious of.

I think the guy is an accomplished hunter and he just happens to have the funds to hunt the way he chooses to hunt.
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right.... ](*,)
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proutdoors
"NONYA" wrote:right.... ](*,)
 :lame
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Mark
"proutdoors" wrote:
NONYA wrote:right.... ](*,)
 :lame
 I agree. But what I find is even more lame is that my post addressing the issue was deleted.

I stand by what I said and I hope Nonya had a chance to read it before it was deleted. Hiring a guide doesn't make you a poor hunter as Nonya has implied. Ask Roy about that AZ Strip hunt, Nonya. Tell me that Roy isn't 10 times the hunter you wish you could be. And *GASP* he hired a guide for that hunt!

Brett, it's your website and you can do with it as you please. I understand you want to avoid confrontation, but until you address the source, the problems will continue. You know who, and you darn sure know what I'm referring to. Opinions are like Nonya, everybody has one.

I've obviously made myself and my opinions unwelcome here, so please, feel free to delete my account if you choose to.
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"mark jones" wrote:
proutdoors wrote:
NONYA wrote:right.... ](*,)
 :lame
 I agree. But what I find is even more lame is that my thread addressing the issue was deleted.

I stand by what I said and I hope Nonya had a chance to read it before it was deleted. Hiring a guide doesn't make you a poor hunter as Nonya has implied. Ask Roy about that AZ Strip hunt, Nonya. Tell me that Roy isn't 10 times the hunter you wish you could be. And *GASP* he hired a guide for that hunt!

Brett, it's your website and you can do with it as you please. I understand you want to avoid confrontation, but until you address the source, the problems will continue. You know who, and you darn sure know what I'm referring to. Opinions are like Nonya, everybody has one.

I've obviously made myself and my opinions unwelcome here, so please, feel free to delete my account if you choose to.
 +1 with what Mark said!!!!!

mark, dont feel like you are minority here

as far as hiring a guide, if i had the $$$ to do it and drew a tag where i had never been before, for sure i would be doing it

9er
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Mark
"9er" wrote: +1 with what Mark said!!!!!

mark, dont feel like you are minority here

as far as hiring a guide, if i had the $$$ to do it and drew a tag where i had never been before, for sure i would be doing it

9er
 I suppose I'm just a little frustrated with the editing. I don't normally call people names, but sometimes a point needs to be made! Narrow mindedness shows a real lack of character in my humble opinion.

It's silly to think that Denny is any less of a hunter just because he has money and hired a guide to kill an awesome bull. Too many people feel that because he hired a guide he doesn't deserve that bull.

Roy, I'm sorry I drug your good name into this and I meant no disrespect to you. You were just the best example I could come up with on this website. Obviously you hired a guide for different reasons, but it doesn't in any way shape or form make your kill any less respectable. That was the point of bringing it up.
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MuleyMadness
It's silly to think that Denny is any less of a hunter just because he has money and hired a guide to kill an awesome bull. Too many people feel that because he hired a guide he doesn't deserve that bull.
 Agreed. Chances are I'll never hire a guide, but if I had the money I'm not saying I wouldn't do so either.

I think it's a positive benefit that 155,000 dollars can go back into hopefully habitat etc., into helping the Elk herds in the great state this bull was taken from.

I'll likely never have that kind of cash to drop on an animal and if I did doubt I would. BUT I don't tell people how to spend there money and DON'T have a problem with those that do. The tags are SOLD and there for that VERY reason to be purchased at a high dollar to hunt amazing animals and give money back into the system in a positive way. At least that's the way I see it and it's suppose to work. Hopefully it does.

Anyway, my thoughts always go back to this line..."if you don't have something positive or good to say, don't say anything at all"
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And I don't mind questions at all, but blatant ignorant, rude, arrogant, offensive comments, and/or judging others has no place in/on my board and this type of lingo will be deleted. And if abusers/users continue then I will be forced to ban them. I don't want to do this or like to, but I made need to. Being more respectful of others is the answer, not less respectful.

And if someone is out of line, calling them out on it would be better done through a PM or MOD'S of the board.

I think some/all are active members of other boards and thus read a lot of comments and start to think this type of talk is useful, good, and OKAY.

I tend to disagree and don't want my small forum turning into this. :)

I'll make another case in point later.

I know I don't run a perfect ship here and am far from perfect myself, but I do strive my best and thanks to those who contribute and share also. Much appreciated.
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Mark
Some states require a guide in some situations.

A friend of mine was forced to hire a guide in I believe Wyoming to hunt sheep in a wilderness area. He hired the guide, arrowed his ram, and completed his archery Grand Slam on that guided hunt. That's a pretty exclusive club in the archery world.

I'm pretty sure that Tony is okay with having to hire a guide. Does anyone want to say that he doesn't deserve to have his Archery Grand Slam just because he hired a guide?
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Mark
"MuleyMadness" wrote:And I don't mind questions at all, but blatant ignorant, rude, arrogant, offensive comments, and/or judging others has no place in/on my board and this type of lingo will be deleted. And if abusers/users continue then I will be forced to ban them. I don't want to do this or like to, but I made need to. Being more respectful of others is the answer, not less respectful.

And if someone is out of line, calling them out on it would be better done through a PM or MOD'S of the board.

I think some/all are active members of other boards and thus read a lot of comments and start to think this type of talk is useful, good, and OKAY.

I tend to disagree and don't want my small forum turning into this. :)

I'll make another case in point later.

I know I don't run a perfect ship here and am far from perfect myself, but I do strive my best and thanks to those who contribute and share also. Much appreciated.
 Point taken, Brett. I edited my earlier post to reflect the respect I have for you.
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MULIES4EVER
I agree with Brett. I come here for the cool hunt pictures and the stories. I enjoy everybody's comments. Even Nonya's. I may even agree with how he feels about the $20 tag. But that is neither here nor there. I like to have a ton of friends and give out a slap on the back to you guys when you tell me about a great hunt. Lets keep it at that. Remember we are all hunters, lets not divide the ranks.
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Mark
"MULIES4EVER" wrote:I may even agree with how he feels about the $20 tag. But that is neither here nor there.
That is precisely here and there! How does hiring a guide take away any of his skills? Denny may very well be able to hunt circles around many people here, you and me included. He may not have gotten his hands bloody, but I can bet that he put some miles on his feet to kill that elk. You don't get to kill many elk from the roads, do you? That bull wasn't tied to a tree waiting to be shot either.

If this same wealthy individual came on here and posted a picture of a dead cow elk he shot people would be congratulating him on his success.

If he hired a guide and killed an average bull people would still congratulate him. I've seen it happen here in the past.

But because he hired a well publicized guide crew and paid a fortune for the hunt as well as the tag and killed a once in a lifetime bull, he gets beaten down. The hunter deserves our respect, not your criticism.
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MuleyMadness
Thanks Mark, I edited the post.

I don't want everyone to think we all have to agree on everything either, that's not my point.
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MULIES4EVER
I personally think he made a financial investment. He can get all that he paid back and more for the advertising and publicity of that bull. I am not knocking him. He made a wise move. I dont know the guy and cant say whether he is a good hunter or not. But I would be extremely happy for a guy who found that bull on his own and killed it by himself of his own skills. To me that is awesome. However this hunt seems more like an investment.

(Notice the word seems. That is my opinion. Not an accusation.)
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Mark
"MULIES4EVER" wrote:I personally think he made a financial investment. He can get all that he paid back and more for the advertising and publicity of that bull. I am not knocking him. He made a wise move. I dont know the guy and cant say whether he is a good hunter or not. But I would be extremely happy for a guy who found that bull on his own and killed it by himself of his own skills. To me that is awesome. However this hunt seems more like an investment.

(Notice the word seems. That is my opinion. Not an accusation.)
 Right. It was just a wise move because Denny really just wants to make money and get publicity. Hunting elk isn't fun for him, it's just a way to make money. A DIY hunter would have kept it a secret.

It seems like more sour grapes to me.

(Notice the word seems. That is my opinion. Not an accusation.)
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MULIES4EVER
Man, didnt mean to release a bee in the bonnet, Just saying how I feel about it. Like I said I dont know the guy.
Sour grapes is not my thing. He is a hunter, Mark, you are a hunter, I am a hunter, Nonya is a hunter, Lets not waste our time bickering. The bull I shot this year doesnt even compare point/size wise to old spidey but I am not the jealous type. Just gotta say I would be thrilled for the guy if he could have scouted that baby out all by himself.

Emotion is hard to read in type. I am not attacking you Mark. Just contributing to the topic with my opinion.
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MuleyMadness
enough is enough on this one. Thread is now LOCKED.
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