Ted Nugent shoots deer illegally (heres Proof)
ColeHous
10/16/09 12:15pm
Ted Nugent hunted California archery season in califorina where the use of any bait is illegal any feeding any game animal anytime of the year is illegal under Fish and Game code
Regulations
§251.3. Prohibition Against Feeding Big Game Mammals.
No person shall knowingly feed big game mammals, as defined in Section 350 of these regulations.
§350. Big Game Defined.
"Big game" means the following: deer (genus Odocoileus), elk (genus Cervus), pronghorn antelope (genus Antilocarpa), wild pig (feral pigs, European wild pigs and their hybrids (genus Sus), black bear (genus Ursus) and Nelson bighorn sheep (subspecies Ovis canadensis nelsoni) in the areas described in subsection 4902(b) of the Fish and Game Code.
Ted harvested a once in a lifetime buck that most hunters only dream of. He used C'mere deer to attract the deer which is strictly illegal in CA. I cannot believe that someone who is as much of a hunting activist as him would break laws. It goes to show that if you have money you can do whatever you want. I have hunted CA for 20 years and have seen a steady decline in hunters because of the poor game management. Fish and Game needs to go after him and set a example. If it is legal for him then i we should all be able use illegal measures to harvest animals. The first part of the article is written by Bill Mays, then the last is written by Nugent Himself the last paragraph clearly states that C'mere deer was used pre season. under the F&G code such activities are illegal heres the story. Make sure you read the last paragraph.
http://www.southwindent.net/a3_2%20Nugent.html
Regulations
§251.3. Prohibition Against Feeding Big Game Mammals.
No person shall knowingly feed big game mammals, as defined in Section 350 of these regulations.
§350. Big Game Defined.
"Big game" means the following: deer (genus Odocoileus), elk (genus Cervus), pronghorn antelope (genus Antilocarpa), wild pig (feral pigs, European wild pigs and their hybrids (genus Sus), black bear (genus Ursus) and Nelson bighorn sheep (subspecies Ovis canadensis nelsoni) in the areas described in subsection 4902(b) of the Fish and Game Code.
Ted harvested a once in a lifetime buck that most hunters only dream of. He used C'mere deer to attract the deer which is strictly illegal in CA. I cannot believe that someone who is as much of a hunting activist as him would break laws. It goes to show that if you have money you can do whatever you want. I have hunted CA for 20 years and have seen a steady decline in hunters because of the poor game management. Fish and Game needs to go after him and set a example. If it is legal for him then i we should all be able use illegal measures to harvest animals. The first part of the article is written by Bill Mays, then the last is written by Nugent Himself the last paragraph clearly states that C'mere deer was used pre season. under the F&G code such activities are illegal heres the story. Make sure you read the last paragraph.
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6 to one, half a dozen to others. Either way what he did was illegal in the state of Ca. call it what you want....
If you feel strongly about it, simply call DFG and send them the info to look into. As a former warden of the Golden State, I can tell you it would be looked into if reported. Lastly, my own personal view of a true "poacher" would not encompass this incident if true........it's actually illegally using attractants or bait......a different section than poaching.
Seems these days folks are putting every violation under the "poacher" umbrella. That has inherited problems, IMO. If you have a legal tag for the proper zone, are using the proper equipment, and you take a deer and notch your tag and place it on the antler but forgot to sign your tag before the hunt in the appropriate box are you a poacher? No. You simply get a citation for the appropriate violation.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if some choose to call it "baiting" thats fine. I like Ted and watch his program's i just disagree with this and think that he needs to be aware of the laws in the area that he hunts. This is one of the major responsibilites of him as a "hunter" also if it is a list of companies that he uses on all of his articles then thats fine but if there are things that are illegal in the state then he can expect people to comment on it.
Definition:Poaching is the illegal hunting, killing or capturing of animals. This can occur in a variety of ways. Poaching can refer to the failure to comply with regulations for legal harvest, resulting in the illegal taking of wildlife that would otherwise be allowable. Examples include: Taking without a license or permit, use of a prohibited weapon or trap, taking outside of the designated time of day or year, and taking of a prohibited sex or life stage. Poaching can also refer to the taking of animals from a gazzetted wildlife sanctuary, such as a national park, game reserve, or zoo. Most countries enforce various sanctions on the hunting of wild animals, and international controls, such as bans, restrictions and monitored trade, are all aimed at controlling poaching. However, it is important to note that hunting, under specific regulations, is in fact often permitted in designated game preserves.
Only opinion, innuendo and rumor are going to fly here. Now let's forget the facts, and the truth for that matter, and get back to blowing this out of proportion.
There's a reason why we have several hundred specific and separate sections of the F&G Code that are utilized depending on the violation that occurred. Under your train of thought, there would be no need to have specific sections, we would simply re-write the F&G Code and make a "poaching" section to cover ALL illegal acts involving hunting........sorry it doesn't work that way and would not be appropriate, IMO.
I do understand your concern, and if he violated the baiting section here, he should be cited for that. I don't think anyone here will disagree with you. My point is that before we jump on the bandwagon and convict someone on this site, one should know the facts........it could be he didn't use any attractants and you've just slandered his name inappropriately. That's my only point.
I believe he has a website that he frequently answers questions on? Ask him if he used them.......from what I've seen he'll probably answer it.
I think you missed my point. I'm not saying that nothing should be said, I'm saying the appropriate thing should be said. After reading the article, one could have posted the comment; "If Ted Nugent did what his article says, he broke the law." This would be a completely true statement which can't be said for "Ted Nugent poaches deer in California", or Ted Nugent shoots deer illegally(heres proof)" which are both speculative, emotionally driven statements that have nothing to do with the facts. I read the article and there simply is no proof of anything. Ted's statements obviously ended with his thanks list and someone wrote the equipment list as an afterthought. Writers of articles screw up all the time, hence the reason there is a "setting it straight" section in most gun magazines. I like facts, I respect opinions, I personally would wait to see the outcome before making such careless statements about anybody.-----shooter
I'm sure everyone has jumped to conclusions... I should have rephrased my statements. If ted did get the deer legally then awesome, heck of a buck. If he used bait, then shame on him, but still a heck of a buck.
what the heck is a reseason?
could it be preseason?
"You are dirty and ugly and black!
Sure no one would think you were metal,
Except when you're given a crack."
"Not so! not so! kettle said to the pot;
"'Tis your own dirty image you see;
For I am so clean -without blemish or blot-
That your blackness is mirrored in me"
Tony
They call on him!