The hunting scope
Don Fischer
7/1/08 10:24pm
I have been reading for a long time about people using ever more power in hunting scopes. Back in the 70's most of us used straight 4x scopes and a lot of 2 3/4x. Then the 3-9x craze hit hard but the 2-7x just never seemed to fly well. Don't know why as I would prefer it to the 3-9x on a hunting rifle for big game.
Today it seems that the way to go is the 4-14x and above. I don't understand the thought behind such a large scope on a hunting rifle. Nor do I understand going to all the trouble and expense of getting an extreamly light weight rifle then tagging it with the biggest scope one can find.
I should admit that I have and use a 3-9x on my 243 set up as a preditor rifle. I could easily use a 2-7x but they are a bit hard to find. I also have a 4 1/2-14x on my 6.5-06. But it's set up for long range target shooting at 9 1/2# MTY. My 30-06 has a 1-4x Redfield and my 6.5x55 a 2 3/4x Redfield. Maybe that is reverse order?
Before going to the 4 1/2-14 on my 6.5x06, I used a 3-9x. But I needed adjustable target knobs and my 3-9x didn't have them. Most of the shooting I do with it, out to 500 yds, I use 6x! When I hunted with bigger scopes, 3-9x on my 25-06, I always carried it on 3x, sighted it in on 6x and have never used 9x. I did try 14x once on the 6.5-06 shooting off bags at 100yds, you can see your heart beat! Hated it.
OK. Why do you that use big scopes use them?
Today it seems that the way to go is the 4-14x and above. I don't understand the thought behind such a large scope on a hunting rifle. Nor do I understand going to all the trouble and expense of getting an extreamly light weight rifle then tagging it with the biggest scope one can find.
I should admit that I have and use a 3-9x on my 243 set up as a preditor rifle. I could easily use a 2-7x but they are a bit hard to find. I also have a 4 1/2-14x on my 6.5-06. But it's set up for long range target shooting at 9 1/2# MTY. My 30-06 has a 1-4x Redfield and my 6.5x55 a 2 3/4x Redfield. Maybe that is reverse order?
Before going to the 4 1/2-14 on my 6.5x06, I used a 3-9x. But I needed adjustable target knobs and my 3-9x didn't have them. Most of the shooting I do with it, out to 500 yds, I use 6x! When I hunted with bigger scopes, 3-9x on my 25-06, I always carried it on 3x, sighted it in on 6x and have never used 9x. I did try 14x once on the 6.5-06 shooting off bags at 100yds, you can see your heart beat! Hated it.
OK. Why do you that use big scopes use them?
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Personally I pick out the power of a scope in relation to the caliber it will be used with and what I will be using it for. I don’t see anything wrong with some one using a higher power scope such as 4-12, 4.5-14 even a 4-16 power scope as long as they use them effectively and don’t go around cranking it to full power and letting them rip at 500 yards when they are not capable of shots like that.
I personally use some 4.5-14's on a few of my hunting rifles like my antelope rifle where I am hunting it the wide open. On my elk rifle I use a 3-9 but hunt more in timber than open. I ONLY reload I do not buy factory ammo anymore and I shoot year round for practice and enjoyment.
I am kind of a gun and scope nut, I have used or owned everything from a cheap Bushnell to the high end Swarovski. And really like the Leupold, Nikon, and the Zeiss Conquest then there are a few I wish I never bought. There are a few others I would like to start getting such as the Meopta and I want to try the vortex Viper riflescopes.
Some people feel a 3-9 is all they need and that is fine for some people want a little extra power. There really is not much difference in hunting with a gun set on 3 power VS 4.5 power.
The problem people run in to, is when the person cranks the scope all the way up, and try to use the scope to spot something all the way across a canyon.
They never turn it back down and later an animal jumps up at 40 yards and it is on 12 or 14 power and they can't see nothing but a bunch of brown.
Personally I know what power the scope I am hunting with is on at all times in the field it may start at 3 or 4.5 power but if I get to an area where it fairly open I will bring it up to 5-7 power or so depending on the terrain. I would say that some people buy more scope then they need but also a lot of people do not shoot their rifles much before hunting season. I shoot year round and with many different calibers so for me I personally like a 3-12 or 4.5-14 on certain rifles. :1
This topic has been long debated and surely will continue, but I believe that there is no "perfect" one size fits all scope.
When I hunted whitetails back east we had an antler minimum for our group. We could shoot all the does we wanted but if you shot a button buck it cost $100. The higher magnification allows me to look very closely at the heads and tell if it has nubs or is a doe. Since we shot an average of 5 deer per year, it could add up very quickly. Also, I can use the scope to count tines on the deer. Unlike here in the west, we did not get a long look at a deer to see if it was a shooter buck or not. In gun season they were on the move. Higher magnification lets me see if its a shootable 8 pointer or a 7 pointer that is not on the menu and will cost me another $100. Yes we use scopes for identification but safely. Not to identry a brown spot, but which deer it actually is. Glassing with binocs or spotter is useless when you can only see 100 yards.
I think shooting out past 350 is a risk anyway, to many factors can make the situation go wrong, a flinch on a shot at that distance makes u miss by 10ft. I have shot and hit a metal garbage can top at 610 yards, just to see if the weatherby could reach that far. And like silver tip said with gathering more light, when do u ever see a deer at longdistance right before daybreak... never cus u cant see that far in the dark. My opinion is to shoot within a distance u feel comfortable at, u could have the world record anything out at 700yards, would u shoot, i know i wouldn't, why risk wounding that animal, u would feel terrible and u know it. U can always get closer, just takes time and patience.
My 2 pennies.
You said it perfectly there. Shoot within your limitations. Not everyone has the same limitations. I know I am not the best shot in the world, but I do know my limitations. Odds are they are not the same as you or others. If I was sure of where my load would hit at 700 yards, I have no problems shooting a world record or a flathead/cow at that distance.
Guns are not the limitation at long range, the person pulling the trigger is. You should watch a high power service rifle competition. The USMC shoots modified M16s at 1000 yards. This is with open sights also. The little 223 Remington will indeed shoot to the 1K line. No, I am not advocating using a varmint gun for big critters.