utah deer management hunts
9er
12/5/08 10:06pm
Management buck deer hunt: More hunters can hunt on the Paunsaugunt and Henry Mountains premium limited entry units after board members approved a management buck deer hunt for the units.
The management hunt runs Nov. 2 to 6 on the Henry Mountains unit and Nov. 7 to 11 on the Paunsaugunt unit. If you draw a permit for the hunt, you may not take a deer that has more than three points on either of its antlers. You can hunt with a rifle, a muzzleloader, or a bow and arrow.
"This change will give more hunters a chance to hunt on these premiere units while still protecting the larger bucks on the units," Aoude says.
why may i ask????
9er
The management hunt runs Nov. 2 to 6 on the Henry Mountains unit and Nov. 7 to 11 on the Paunsaugunt unit. If you draw a permit for the hunt, you may not take a deer that has more than three points on either of its antlers. You can hunt with a rifle, a muzzleloader, or a bow and arrow.
"This change will give more hunters a chance to hunt on these premiere units while still protecting the larger bucks on the units," Aoude says.
why may i ask????
9er
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But would I want this tag? NOPE, pointless to waste my points on this. There are some big/pretty 3-points out there but what a joke IMO. 5 days and you loose all points, yea right.
I have never hunted either unit but have been around long enough to know what they are all about. Weeding these bucks from the gene pool is NOT a bad idea whatsoever. As we all know, there are some monster 2 and 3 points that will never become monster 4+ points. It's just not in thier genes....and you don't want those types of bucks spreading thier genes through a trophy unit.
Now, Brett brought up an even better point....would you want to loose your points on a draw like this? I guess if I were in Pro's position it wouldn't be a bad proposition whatsoever. However, someone who has been collecting points for years may not want throw them away on a management hunt.
Myself, I think this would have been a great opportunity to create a QUALITY youth hunt for the youngsters. I know there are a LOT of young hunters out there that would absolutely LOVE to harvest a big 2 or 3 point Muley. Heck, what better way to get a young man or woman started Muley hunting?
In other words...what I am trying to say is, a management hunt is not a bad idea and would go a long way in ensuring future trophy calibur bucks throughout both units. However, I think it could have been done a bit differently.
It's a fairly good idea for the hunt and will probably grow on me more after a few years. I do agree with many who have chimed in so far. This could have been handled differently for sure. At least the state is trying a different approach to protect the trophy potential there. As much as we tend to gripe and moan about the Utah DWR, how many other regions in the country cause people to salivate like some of the regions in Utah? I tip my hat to them for producing so many trophy bucks and bulls the last couple of decades. They seem to know what they are doing.
The only loop hole is people will b&m when someone kills a broken buck instead of a buck that is truly a management buck. Having the hunt in the rut is a bad idea. The big bucks will be broken. Just like the bulls were broken. What the heck was the division thinking? Don’t they learn form their mistakes?
Why didn’t they just let them hunt them during the regular rifle hunt?
Great idea management hunt! Bad idea hunt dates!
As far as points I won’t burn my pile on the henneries Ill wait two more years and go kill my buck in my dreams. I however would consider it if I was younger and had no points.
But taking one with a rifle during the Rut isn't much of a challenge.
Do both sides have to be THREE??
keep an eye on him for me will ya!! =D>
and as far as weapon choice, its any weapon, so you could go after him with your bow if wanted brett!!
9e
I think it's a great idea, especially how they kept it away from the same time the LE tag holders are trying to hunt trophy deer.
There are bucks dying of old age on the Henry's that noone will even take a second look at because of bad genetics, my boy would LOVE to go smoke a big old 2x3 or other management buck within definition with his less than a handful of bonus points.
As for me....i'll get there eventually with my 13! [-o<
What i worry about is will this invite even MORE poaching?? ](*,)
So technically you can't/shouldn't shoot him, but would people really look at the eyeguard and not shoot. (???)
I hope so, but makes me nervous. And he is BIG, I'd love to have this guy but he is older and on his was down hill.
Myself, I would be ticked to get a HUGE 3 point like that. He is certainly a beast.
To answer your question Brett, the way I understand it is that there cannot be more than 3 points on any one side. Much like our 3 point rule here in WA state. Again, looks like this big boy would be illegal on a management hunt.
Again, I am NOT in Utah and am just going by past experience but any three point rule I have ever delt with did indeed count eye guards that were at least an inch long toward the 3 point minimum.
If the eye guards (G1's) do NOT count, Brett's buck is a SMOKER buck for this new plan!! :thumb
you gonna show him to me when i draw the tag???
9er
imo, this should be a youth hunt, but i might take advantage of it so i can get back in the elk game
the way I see/read it you CAN'T take this buck. He has more than 3-points per side/antler.
Brett.......go kill that buck!!!!!!! :thumb
Not interested, got my eyes on something better. :)
Serious on the eyeguards huh, guess I learned something new today. :thumb
Funny, we have a thread here somewhere regarding this same thing. I hunt both Whitetail and Mule deer and when I am describing my bucks I never count the eyeguards on the Muleys...but ALWAYS count them when talking about my Whitetail.
but i always say the reason easterners count both sides and we dont is because are deer are big enough we dont have to add them together to make them sound bigger lol
The management hunt runs Nov. 2–6 on the Henry Mountains unit and Nov. 7–11 on the Paunsaugunt unit. If you draw a permit for the hunt, one of the antlers on the deer you take may not have more than three points on it. There's no restriction on the number of points the other antler can have. You can hunt with a rifle, a muzzleloader, or a bow and arrow.
So draw the tag, find a bruiser 3 x 10, and call your taxidermist.
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