Utah License Taxing
Danthe2pointmuleyman
4/6/04 10:33pm
Ok i am writin yall because this has became very stupid. Utah ahh of course the tax happy state for everything and i mean everything. I have heard a rumor regarding general mule deer and elk licenses goin up and also combination licenses goin up. This is a bunch of crap ok i dont mind supportin the wildlife but the only money the dwr gets is the 5 dollar extra you pay when u apply for the license while the rest of the money goes straight to government and not back into the wildlife where it belongs. It is not right and also unjust to do that because the gov. has no right to take money for taxing and not put it back into the wildlife so where we have programs and such to help out. When surrounding states have cheaper tags and their wildlife is flourishing while ours keeps declining means there is something definately wrong. I know im just voicin my opinion but out of the 40 bucks we pay for general mule deer only 5 bucks of that goes back into wildlife while the rest can buy the governer a new caddy lol.
It's bullcrap and should be changed to where 35 bucks of that goes back into the wildlife or better yet all of it goes back into the wildlife ahh wouldn't that be something.
It's bullcrap and should be changed to where 35 bucks of that goes back into the wildlife or better yet all of it goes back into the wildlife ahh wouldn't that be something.
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However if the rate increase prevents a few "2-point slayers" from purchasing tags then I'm all for it. I think in certain areas there are way to many tags already.
i really can't speak wisely about utah, as i have never hunted there before. but as far as the topic is concerned, i totally agree with you. i live in wyoming and i am going to give you an example of what ticks me off in the great state of wyoming. ok, we pay x amount of dollars for a deer tag. the government then takes y amount of dollars, which by the way is close to 95% of the said x dollar for the tag, and builds new fences and spring development work on Mr. Dickie's multi million dollar ranch. which by the way Mr. Dickie's ranch also produces some of the states best elk and deer. but in order to hunt this land you are going to pay close to $6000 just to trespass the land and another $2000 if you kill something on his land. so these state dollars we are paying are not only not going back into wildlife management but they are also being given to Mr. Rancher to improve his land so he can bend me over come hunting season time. even though i was the one that payed for his new fence that is keeping me off his land. i know how all this works because i use to work for the blm in wyoming and you would be surprised what i was told to do for MR. Rancher. if that isn't bad enough now with this whole elk die off here in wyoming, i have heard that the price of a tag is going to rise even more, obviously!!!!!!!! but that is not the problem, the problem is that the area these elk died in is also on Mr. Dickie's ranch, so once again i will be paying crazy prices to hunt and also getting bent at the same time. oooooooohhhhhh well, such is life!
wyoming is a great place as well and although i could sit here and tell you everything that i dont agree with that the dwr is doing, i will continue to support them and continue to pay more and more for the right to hunt. i don't think there is a price on hunting that i wouldn't pay. man i am jealous, i would love to come to utah just once and hunt, i have a couple hunting videos that i watch with doyle moss hunting there in utah and all i can say is WOW!!!!!!!! pretty cool stuff!!
You carry a great point about payin more an more for the hunt. I will hunt till i drop just because i love it so much. I truly live for the hunt and have been blessed with relatives that do also. I want to do my part in helping wildlife and if that means payin more so be it. I've been huntin since i could crawl lol and each year i get more an more into the hunt and who knows one of these years i might get the big boy ive been dreamin about. I heard form soem construction workers that the big ole 5x6 bout a 30 inch spread was found dead durin the shed hunts. The worker took the head and horns and brought it down with him and what an awesome animal. I respect any muley that has survived all those years of the hunt and let me tell you it was a true peice of work to see such a awesome creature. I dont know what he ever did with the head i spose he probably had to either turn it in to the dwr or maybe they let him keep it idk the rules but i think next year i will take the horses up and do some of this shed huntin that i've really never tried before. Thanks for the reply man
Another thing to the original post:
Take a look at Utah's success in trophy elk management. They don't go by bull-to-cow ratio's like they would buck-to-doe with deer. Maybe instead of managing for so many bucks per however many does, they should manage deer by age-class, like our elk herds are currently managed.