What do you think?

http://www.eastmans.com/guy/
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MuleyMadness
Mostly agree, if it's true what a joke. Down right embarrassing and pathetic. But I don't totally agree with the tags stance, but can CERTAINlY see is point and agree in part.
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stillhunterman
"MuleyMadness" wrote:Mostly agree, if it's true what a joke. Down right embarrassing and pathetic. But I don't totally agree with the tags stance, but can CERTAINlY see is point and agree in part.
 That pretty much echo's my thoughts as well. As I recall, the "spider bull" of Utah was taken under similar circumstances, but I might be wronge :-k
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your right,same exact situation in Utah with the gov tags and Mossback outfitters,it is pathetic.
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In my personal opinion hunting is beginning to become a rich mans sport, if you have the money you'll be in the books. I'm not saying that the average joe doesn't bag some trophy animals because we do but its because we work our butts off to get it. That's just my opinion
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BIG R
I agree with everybody,it has become a rich mans sport now aday.If you have the money alls you have to do anymore is show up and pull the trigger,IMO its not even hunting and I would be ashamed to even be involed with something like that and the spider bull is a perfect example of one of these situations :>/
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ABert
I'm just a bit confused.

An outfitter is paying local land owners to restrict access? Does this mean these sheep are on private land or that the only way to get to public land is through private land?
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Loafer
I took notice to where it says this type of hunting is going to "re-write the records books." It gives the recent BC animals in the books the "baseball steriod era" feel to them. Its to bad people feel that chasing animals down with helicopters is hunting. Not only is this unethical in my book but it makes hunters look terrible.
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BIG R
+1
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I would love to see b&c record book pull the record status on animals like this if it is true. How can that be considered fair chase hunting?
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I would tell you what i would i do. If in that situation with a tag in hand same as with the spider bull instance. I would hunt that animal and anybody that decided to try to stop me from shootin him. :) You spend a life time tryin for a tag like this and after years finally you get it to find out some rich man bought a tag and has spent thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars and tied up the biggest animal on the unit. There would be a war. :thumb
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waynedevore
I know the Montana Missouri Breaks country quite well. I also know where the big horn Sheep are, seen them many times while deer hunting and bird hunting.
And for sure there are outfitters that know where the sheep hang out. The way I understand it, the sheep tags are in a drawing for the public, average "Joes" type Montana residents. Non-residents can get "up" too 10% of the tags.
Montana residents that would be willing to pay outfitters fees like that? I don't think so!

This is a fact. The Sheep in the Breaks hang out in the Huge 1,100,000 acre Charles M Russel Wildlife Refuge. Open to public hunting. Not on private land. Outfitters can control some access, but, trails are open to the public. Maps of all trails are available to the public [google CMR Refuge]

I think this article was written with no verification.
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unfortunately its not fair chase hunting and its rediculous. i agree with Guy's point of view on this, I feel that the governors tags are going to non grateful people.
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ABert
"waynedevore" wrote:I know the Montana Missouri Breaks country quite well. I also know where the big horn Sheep are, seen them many times while deer hunting and bird hunting.
And for sure there are outfitters that know where the sheep hang out. The way I understand it, the sheep tags are in a drawing for the public, average "Joes" type Montana residents. Non-residents can get "up" too 10% of the tags.
Montana residents that would be willing to pay outfitters fees like that? I don't think so!

This is a fact. The Sheep in the Breaks hang out in the Huge 1,100,000 acre Charles M Russel Wildlife Refuge. Open to public hunting. Not on private land. Outfitters can control some access, but, trails are open to the public. Maps of all trails are available to the public [google CMR Refuge]

I think this article was written with no verification.
 Thanks for clarifying my confusion. I just couldn't see how an outfitter could block all access to public land by bribing local land owners. Particularly in the mountains where sheep tend to hang out.
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"waynedevore" wrote:I know the Montana Missouri Breaks country quite well. I also know where the big horn Sheep are, seen them many times while deer hunting and bird hunting.
And for sure there are outfitters that know where the sheep hang out. The way I understand it, the sheep tags are in a drawing for the public, average "Joes" type Montana residents. Non-residents can get "up" too 10% of the tags.
Montana residents that would be willing to pay outfitters fees like that? I don't think so!

This is a fact. The Sheep in the Breaks hang out in the Huge 1,100,000 acre Charles M Russel Wildlife Refuge. Open to public hunting. Not on private land. Outfitters can control some access, but, trails are open to the public. Maps of all trails are available to the public [google CMR Refuge]

I think this article was written with no verification.
 Did you miss last years mess with the F&G sting?The only thing they ever got on them was trespassing to kill that monster ram,apparently some of the big ones are hanging out on private.If there was a 200" ram on public ground he would have been shot by now,there are quite a few tags and a ton of outfitters,he wouldnt make it this long hanging out on public.I grew up in Jordan and have lots of family in the area,my uncle flys scouting flights for these "outfitters" prior" to the season,the real monsters are on private,thats how they get to be monsters.Eastman is right,this pay to play BS is going to be the downfall of our sport and any record book that allows BS entrys like the spider bull has lost any respect I had for it.
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182BC...4Now!
Did they remove the story or something? When I click on the link, I don't see anything about what ya'll are talking about....would be interested in reading the article though. Maybe I'm blind and it's right in front of me, but I can't seem to find it. :-k
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haha yea i was woundering what the heck ya'l was talkn bout i dont see any thing on what your talkn bout
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killerbee
"182BC...4Now!" wrote:Did they remove the story or something? When I click on the link, I don't see anything about what ya'll are talking about....would be interested in reading the article though. Maybe I'm blind and it's right in front of me, but I can't seem to find it. :-k
 +1 ??? i was wondering why everyone is so mad at a poor taxidermy job??
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sneekeepete
They removed the story I guess. I just looked at the link.
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