what guide services in AZ lack ethics?
lv2hunt
11/18/09 4:21pm
in the last few years I have heard several stories/ complaints regarding guides in my state, attempting to bully and discourage hunters. Az has a first come first served stance, and they don't seem to respect it. I have seen empty bleach bottles near tanks.I have had them set up right next to me on ridges and tanks I even had them pull trees across roads to discourage me from hunting an area. I am not sure if I can mention their name but they're from the cottonwood area. I have heard several like stories from friends and other hunters. If I can post their name let me know. But the reason for this post is the word needs to be out there. I have made complaints to the authority having jurisdictions and now its time to notify the people who really matter, do to lack of interest from those groups.Hunting isnt only for people who can afford to pay $5000.-$10,000 for guided hunts. Its for all, even those poor hunters like me I think its time to get the word out about these groups and maybe affect their hunting experience instead. Does anyone have similar stories
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Try turning them in and see if anyone bothers to pursue an investigation it can be a real joke to try to bring any justice on these people. ](*,)
i know but will remain quiet :thumb
well up on the strip during the archery hunt my dad went to a tank around noon to check his cam and some other hunters were there putting up a groundblind and my dad said he could hear them pissin n moanin about my dad being there and later that day my dad was driving by and saw a trash bag over his camera!
This same guy would also send his minions on horseback onto our property to push the small elk herd onto his for "his paying clients." He hasn't done it in the last 15 years or so... because the elk were removed (State traded them to Kentucky for a bunch of turkey, crap trade IMO). I would venture to guess we might start seeing it again as a handful of elk have moved back onto our property.
No one state or group or area is immune to this, as long as big dollar signs flash in these "guides" heads, they will always try this crap.
It's especially irritating when Everyday Joe tries antics like this though. I had a trail camera moved (the guy pointed it up towards the sky) when he came across it on the archery hunt. Not sure why a guy would feel the need or desire to do that... make a face at it or maybe a gesture and move on, leave it alone.
Still is. Rule #18 in the "It's against the law to:" section. "Interfere with hunters. This includes distracting or frightening prey; causing prey to flee by using light or noise; chasing prey on foot or by vehicle; throwing objects; making movements; harassing hunters by using threats or actions; erecting barriers to deny access to hunting areas and intentionally injecting yourself int the line of fire. Violators face prosecution and may have to pay victim's damages and court costs."
I have no time for these big time outfitters that pull stunts like this. I have heard of several instances of a paticular outfitter in Utah, who happens to also have a line of DVD videos, pull this crap. Hooligans putting up signs telling other hunters to keep out of an area because they are filming a hunt. I can't personally claim that I have seen it, since I have yet to draw a Utah tag :>/, but I have heard it from friends that have hunted there. Makes me want to punch this guy right between the eyes.