What would you do

I turned my boss onto my favorite hunting spot for archery elk (somewhere on the Manti) he and a friend went down for the opening and my boss smacks a cow opening morning and he is now hooked on archery!! :thumb

But Sunday as they were getting out of there stands they encountered another fellow bowhunter, he informs my friend that he and his three boys are camped just down from them and that he had just arrowed two cows and as he was waiting for the 20-30min to go by, out walks a spike he comes to full draw and decided to pass because he "already shot 2 cows" between him and his boys they have 4 tags to fill.

PS: They did not find the cows!

Do we tolerate this and turn our heads, or do we step up to the plate and turn him in?
My Friend let him walk. But me personally I would have called the DWR, and set a good example for his three son what not to do.
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life2extreme
Turn em in, that is the kind of "reckless abandon" that makes the rest of us look like "animal murderers"
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Sounds like the type of guy who gets his bow and mismatched arrows out the week before the season opens...throws a few at the target and says good enough...puts his broadheads, that have been rattling around in the bottom of the cabinet since last year, on and packs it all up..
I can't stand to hunt on the same mountain as these types of people...get serious or go back to rifles!
Turn the guy in!!
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MuleyMadness
Unfortunately this happens way to often IMO and is a sad deal for sure.

Call or no call? Tough call. :) If you did call I doubt the DWR would have done much in a situation like this?
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Yeah I don't know that the DWR could do much in that situation, but that kind of behavior really ticks me off.
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Huge29
"MuleyMadness" wrote:Unfortunately this happens way to often IMO and is a sad deal for sure.

Call or no call? Tough call. :) If you did call I doubt the DWR would have done much in a situation like this?
 +1, not to mention how much do your boys enjoy you shooting their elk? Duh! *DEER that is the number for your cell phone.
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79Ford
Personally, I say call the DWR. If they dont do anything then thats on them, but if they do do something then maybe this guy will learn a lesson or two about hunting ethics.

How long did they search for these two cows before they started hunting again? Unfortunately i think too many hunters in this situation would do the same thing and give up. First few days of the hunt then it's "no big deal" if they lose the animal because they still have the rest of the season left. First off know how to shoot and be able to make a well placed shot, and then if you do botch a shot do everything in your power to find the wounded animal(s). I remember a thread on here last year where a hunter lost the blood trail and was actually going to go get a friend and his dogs to help track a wounded elk.

Honestly i think states should require "refresher" courses for hunters, just like taking the test to renew your drivers license.
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id turn in my own mother for something like that I sure as heck wouldnt give two blinks about a retard I didnt even know. If your not going to turn em in who is.
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For a few years I let a family member get away with shooting a deer even when he didn't have a tag. Eventually he got caught. I regret not saying anything the second I knew it was happening but sometimes you think someone else will handle it, they'll get caught themselves, or you don't dare turn them in because there your friend, family member, etc. Turn him in what he did was unethical and unfair to all other hunters and outdoorsman. Really we all know what we should do but we need to do it not just think about it.
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Jeff
Call the DWR, a friend of mine called them on Wednesday to turn in a guy that has been hunting with out a license for the past couple years. I guess the guy called him to help find a buck he had shot, so my buddy called the DWR and an under cover guy came out and "happened" to bump into them. I guess the guy told the whole story of the hunt (except the part about him not having a tag). The CO identified himself and then there was a lot of explaining to do. I guess the guy got into some deep do-do, lost his bow, got a big fine and is looking at some jail time. I guess he admitted to the CO, before he knew he was a CO, that he "hunts" all the time without a tag. So maybe your guy will be just as mouthy, if he admitted it to you he might admit it to an undercover CO.
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killerbee
heres a question for all you utah guys: so if you did turn him in, and he got busted, would you get the L.E. tag as a reward? or would you get cow tags as a reward? or what would happen? that shouldn't be the main reasonto turn them in but it would help. it's b.s. and happens to much
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Buckmaster
Killer.... We did turn a kid in a few years back for shooting a cow while shooting at a spike bull (spike unit only) and after all the dust had setteled in court he lost his hunting rights for 3 years and was find $500.00 The Fish & Game then did not offer any options to us just said the reward was $100.00

To pick up on this story.... I went down to this area to hunt this weekend hoping this guy would still be there.... he was a no show. But after only 20min in the trees Saturday morning I located the first cow, pulled the camera out and wouldn't you know it dead battery...crap!! Got to my water hole set up for a long set....nothing showed up so I took a little walk and it did not take 15min and I found the other one, along with a big old stinking bear!! That bear stunk more than that week old elk did!! What a waste of meat and life!!!
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Turn him in that's bullcrap... :>/
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NONYA
This happened wed. and the guy has already recieved his fines ect? :-k
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Nonya
That would be a FEW YEARS BACK.. This guy walked, no one turned him in :>/
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NONYA
I was asking JEFF.
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Browning Goddess
Well, Im new to the forum...but this post hit a spot that made me want to comment. I honestly would have told the guy off and advised him to leave the area or I would report his illegal hunting practice. I honestly cant stand hunters who think because everyone has a tag that they can fill everyone's tag!!

What a great example for his boys! This is why some hunters shouldnt be allowed to hunt and probably not be a parent. Too many kids these days already have no respect for the laws!! ](*,)
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Mark
"Browning Goddess" wrote:Well, Im new to the forum...but this post hit a spot that made me want to comment. I honestly would have told the guy off and advised him to leave the area or I would report his illegal hunting practice. I honestly cant stand hunters who think because everyone has a tag that they can fill everyone's tag!!

What a great example for his boys! This is why some hunters shouldnt be allowed to hunt and probably not be a parent. Too many kids these days already have no respect for the laws!! ](*,)
 Not to land too hard on you, but...

Why would you just tell him off? Why not turn him in? What kind of example is that?

In NV, hunting with someone else's tag is a misdemeanor. If you kill the animal, it becomes a felony.

Turn them in. Respect the law.
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Jeff
NONYA, I meant to say he's looking at some big fines, I dont know how much or when. I heard yesterday he was going to be charged with wanton destruction of wildlife.
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Browning Goddess
Hey Mark,
Okay, I went back and re-read the initial post.

I guess I missed the part where he didnt find the cows and I guess I was a little confused as to the point. My bad.

If someone was poaching, then HELL yes I would turn them in. If it was a friend with his boys and they were filling tags, then I would make a point to address to him how wrong this practice was and how bad of a rap he gives hunters and teaching future hunters the wrong thing to do.

I am just one to address the issue straight with a person. I am very outspoken that way, this is why I said I would tell him off. Telling him off in my terms means to make a point to address my feelings on his practice. I would not try to do this in front of his kids. I am a mother of two and do try to handle things adult like.

However, I do find it disturbing that this guy would down two cows and then not try and locate them. The first rule is to find the game! Hell we have lost a lot of deer but it was not because we didnt try and find them...we even search for signs from the magpies and vultures. We still tag our kill and do not try for more.

So, my apologies for not completly comprehending the initial post, but poaching is wrong and I dont tolerate outright poaching.
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AGCHAWK
Hmmm.....somehow I missed this thread until now.

My thoughts....I wouldn't hesitate for a second to turn him in. I'm in the same boat as AVS Man, I would turn my own mother in if I caught her doing something like this. I have turned in poachers in the past and will do so any time I think someone is purposely violating the law. What makes this even worse is that this guy wasn't killin' the cows to fill his freezer...he was just killin' em for the sake of killin' em. IMO, that is the WORSE kind of poacher out there!

These sorts of folk really get my blood boiling (I am sitting at my desk right now and can feel my blood pressure rising). They deserve everything they have coming to them and then some. I think it would teach his two boys a valuable lesson also to watch thier father get arrested for being an idiot.
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