Winchester Apex or Thompson/Center Triumph

I am looking for a new Muzzleloader and this question has been up before..I know. but looking at two inlines:
the Winchester and the T/C Triumph(new this year).

Just wondering if anyone has some thoughts and experience with either of these?

thanks!
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bigbuck92
well all the guns ive ever seen from T/C have been good but i think they got bought by S&W so im not sure
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joesigep
"bigbuck92" wrote:well all the guns ive ever seen from T/C have been good but i think they got bought by S&W so im not sure

That is the first I have heard, when was this?
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joesigep
"bigbuck92" wrote:well all the guns ive ever seen from T/C have been good but i think they got bought by S&W so im not sure
 Just found this on the S&W site, thought if anyone else is interested here is the link of the press release:

http://ir.smith-wesson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=90977&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=942841&highlight=
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IDHunter
I have the Winchester Apex and have absolutely no complaints about it. (Other than it's now pretty much illegal to use in Idaho.) I chose it over the Thompson Center Omega because at the time it was a lot cheaper, and very close to the same thing. Personally I don't think you could go wrong with either gun.
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Torch
I have been looking at getting a stainless triumph, but they are not actually stainless steel. They are carbon steel with a coating on it. I would keep that in mind if you are thinking about getting this muzzleloader. I will still probably end up getting one though.
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Jeff
I wonder if they (winchester) are going to make a conversion to use no.11 or musket caps so they wont become obsolete when every state outlaws the 209.
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