zeroing problem

I had the same problem a couple years back. it was the scope. the best way to find out is check and make sure nothing is loose first. the put a bore siter on check where the crosshairs are then take said bore siter out shoot a couple shots then put bore siter in and see if the crosshairs are in a differant spot.then move crosshairs while looking through scope to boresiter and watch how they move. this will tell you right away if it is scope or bedding.

tOUGH TO SAY BUT I would guess there is somthing loose,base,rings,or internal scope parts.

Gotta agree with muleystalker. I, too, think it's your scope. Had a similar problem with one of the best scopes I've ever had a few years ago. Hated losing that scope but hated not being able to hit the target more.

I also had a similar issue with my weatherby. And it was the rear base had come loose. My dad also had a similar issue with his .270, his rear base came loose also.

thank you guys!
it looks like every screws are tight
i've put my old burris back on it and will try again,as soon as i can
will let you know what happens.

I had that same problem and it was my scope as well, however it could be alot of things.

Hopefully you get it corrected.

Scout

thank's for the info guy's
i e-mailed burris with a description of the problem.
and asked if they think the scope could be bad,and they responded to ship it to them. so as soon as i can try my rifle again (too much snow for now) and confirm that it's shooting normal with my 3-9x40 fullfield,i'll send that 4.5-14 back at the company

i agree wih nonya.

check if your scope base is stripped out. i had the same prob just a couple weeks ago. so we kept tightning it up but it kept comming loose so i took off the scope and it was stripped out so we took it back to the guy who put it on and he got us a new one

One thing that you might want to try is to put your gun in a vise and shoot it a bunch of times and see what kind of pattern it holds. this will tell you if it's the gun or the scope. My bet is that it's the scope also.

quebechunter -- How did you "zero-ing" problem turn out? Never heard back from you, were your mounts tight?

looks like it was a bedding problem
i've put my 3x9 back with the same result. so i made pressure point
on the forearm with aluminium tape, i added layers until a piece of paper
was a bit tight between the forearm and barrel. and my groups came back to normal (+- 1 inch).
but i've shot only 4 3shot groups since i made the shim so maybe it's a bit early to be sure the problem is solved

Is your barrel free floated? If so it could be when it was pillar bedded the barrel now makes contact somewhere back by the receiver and it actually shifts pressure points a little against the stock between strings.

Also, a cause of this I have seen many times is overtightning of your receiver screws. So make sure they are snug but not horsed down.

Do all barrels on Remington 700's have a "pressure point" along the barrel or are some of them with "non-standard" stocks fitted different (free floated). If some of them don't have the pressure point along the barrel do they a heavier barrel contour? I did away with the "hump" on the stock of my Remington 700LH in 270win. I've had the rifle about 25-30yrs. I've run maybe a 1000 rnds of hand loads through the rifle. It carries a 3.5-10AO Leupold and always has, the rifle has, depending on the load, shot about 1/2" groups. The groups did come down a little when I got rid of the "hump", however, when the barrel gets warm, say after 3-4 quick rounds, the groups open up vertically, so I put the hump back in the stock. That makes sense to me. Last years "site-in" before the deer hunt the rifle still shot a .47" group. Not bad for a 25yr old weapon. Best loads, are the favorite of several noted people..... A 130 BTS (Sierra) behind a judicious load of H-4831 to about 3100fps, my hunting and accuracy load. I have 3 other 700 rifles, short action, long action, ETronx, none of them have had the problem you note. Your problem might have been fixed, but I not certain that it was a "bedding" problem causing you vertical strings.

Some of their stocks are free floated but many do or did have the "hump" upward pressure on the barrel. Some barrels will work real well with the bump and sometimes you will get the barrel shift changing point of impact.

Barrel contour, stock configuration, temprature, moisture, and shooting style all contribute.

Free floating really became popular through competitive shooters who use a sling for shooting support. With a sling tightly wrapped in either the hasty or cuff style you can put enough pressure on the stock that it would actually bend to contact the barrel causing accuracy problems. Remove enough wood from around the barrel "free floating" it you could bend that stock with barrel contact.

In hunting a sling is seldom used for support but for carrying and that does not come into play.

laminated and composite stocks are not as effected by all the elements as a plain wood stock is so you will see plain stocks with the hump more often.